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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    ... what? Amaterasu? She has +30% Def, which is TERRIBLE. That's basically the same as -15% Atk, with half the uptime. Hell, even the R Hime Perun probably cuts more damage than that with her -25% skill...

    ... ... not saying that Amaterasu is terrible as a whole, I mean her -20% B and Regen are good (particularly in Union events) but...
    Let me expand further on that since you got the wrong skill there; I didn't meant that skill you said (30% Defense Buff + 400 HP Regen P/T)
    Neither I meant her Sniper Shot which is the only reason she's arguably the best after Sol (yes, you don't actually care even so slightly about the Regen or the Blind for that matter when talking about why Amaterasu is so versatile, it all comes down to that B Frame 20% Attack and Defense debuff since it lets you use a Soul that isn't so plain and dull like D'artagnan or free your EX Slot from Sniper Shot, also keeping in mind that you're aiming to hit -40% debuffs on all your teams I think it's pretty clear)
    i meant her Blind skill which has a huge landing rate when Fully LB'd (80%+) and it nullifies normal raid attacks at around 50-60% of the times that plus Mordred's Vicissitudes of Fortune means you're guaranteed to at least get the Blind if you don't get the Dizzy in Outrage and since the whole argument was that with good skill control you can go through an entire expert raid, even if over level 100 without getting an Overdrive to the face


    I hope that's a little better to digest

    I mean, even though your analogy could come as redundant or ignorant considering that the example you give it's an "One Turn Cut" like Joan's you're pretty much saying that Perun has a better defense buff than Andromeda even though it isn't a Defense buff, Is just a cut like Joan's or Gaia's, there's an R Hime with a Defense Buff as bigger as her's or Andromeda's but...




    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    Being able to kill high level stuff is a matter of building your numbers high enough, and also about how your team is built. Like people with Sol in this event are in an entirely different position than people without.
    About this, well duh; It's pretty much obvious?
    If you have the best Kamihime of it's Element and you're against a raid that's weak to said Element did you expect something else?
    Let's say I have Amon [Unleashed] or New Year's Amaterasu when it drops and I'm fighting Saint Nicholas ehm...
    Say I have Amaterasu or Summer Sol and I'm Fighting Lilim Pride ehmm...
    Say I have Gaia and I'm fighting Mastema... right?
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    I see. I don't think that normal attacks are an issue though, not even with Envy who has +Atk and +Combo buffs.

    Sure, sometimes a boss will just target a single Hime(/Soul) turn after turn after turn, but Overdrives are what kill you usually.

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    And then I quote my previous message
    Quote Originally Posted by Neverbloom View Post
    ...since the whole argument was that with good skill control you can go through an entire expert raid, even if over level 100 without getting an Overdrive to the face.
    If you're referring to Ultimate then yes, it comes pretty much to a 35/65 on what you die from, 35 Being normal Hits.
    My Original Message disclosed being about Expert for Union Points though.
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    Sol's a permanent member of my Water team. Her main use is increasing ATK down from -50% to -70%. That nearly halves damage (again). That's going to reduce damage far more than any of Amaterasu's abilities, and that's before even considering her cleanse and dispel capabilities.
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  5. the more i hear, the more i think that water is seriously way to overpowered ~~

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeCrestfallen View Post
    the more i hear, the more i think that water is seriously way to overpowered ~~
    Have you SEEN the average Water SSR? They're absolutely crazy, except Shiva and Ea.

    And I don't think Sanahtlig even had water SSRs. Sol + Water SRs, I believe. Water has great SR Himes, like Triton and Belphegor. And their +20% HP Eidolon having -10% Atk debuff is just... wow.

  7. and yet i still prefer dark and fire personally. Just a subjective feeling though.

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    In a gacha game, you typically use what you get. You can slightly manipulate what you can get by saving up Jewels, but ultimately, RNG gives you what it feels like giving you.

  9. True, True. Will do the same thing you did with Karin on New year, been saving up for dark ama for ages, lets see wether RNGesus and Santa Satan will be with me, or against me.

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    Including or not including P2W escapades?

    In more important matters:
    [Event 28] Crucible of Combat vs The Demon Envy (Union Event)-khenvywut.jpg
    I didn't know this was possible... huh.

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