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    That's sad for me and my Union knowing we are casuals. On a good and well focused day I can grab 500k per day assuming my team dont interfere in my battles. My limits stops after LV 30 ULT without Elixirs or help.

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    main source of PP is expert, not ult

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanadis View Post
    main source of PP is expert, not ult
    not true, ULT doubles the amount of EX but then again EX is easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J4fusion View Post
    not true, ULT doubles the amount of EX but then again EX is easier.
    Doubles? But cost triple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J4fusion View Post
    not true, ULT doubles the amount of EX but then again EX is easier.
    When you get to sufficiently high lvl Demons, the PP per BP spent ratio of Experts just becomes better than that of Ultis.
    And when you're in an Union that can get to lvl 200-300+ Experts on a daily basis, there's no need to farm ULTs at that point for PP anymore.
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    remember my last few words, people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J4fusion View Post
    remember my last few words, people.
    Eh-em
    It surely comes near to double on the early levels but after a few hours it becomes pretty pointless, If you solo an Level 70 Ultimate say you get 125k Experience Points; You wasted I don't know 8 minutes on it and used 3 Seeds.
    Then you go and solo a Level 80-90 Expert, you're most likely getting 70-80K But let's stick to your "words" and say you get half of the ones you could've gotten on Ultimate, even then you only spend 1 Seed instead of 3 and took let's say 3 to 5 minutes to complete it in comparison with double the time it would take to do an Ultimate.

    Now then It doesn't seem more productive to farm Points from Ultimate, does it?
    Don't get crazy about it though, Expert is better than Ultimate around 2.1 times not thrice as you'd think by the Seed usage when you take in mind the time and also the fact that this is only valid after both are level 40'sh +++
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    High-level Experts are nice because you can just hit auto-battle, come back 15min later when it's dead, and grab your 100k PP. Do that 25x and you've hit your PP quota for the event. Ultimates aren't PP-efficient because the higher-level ones will kill off your group quick on auto-battle. And if you're not auto-battling, you're wasting massive amounts of time.
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    Sort of agreed even though high level Experts will destroy your team if you just auto (let's say this happens after level 90) therefore the biggest advantage that Experts have in relation with Ultimates is the fact that even if said Expert is level 126 (as it's currently in my Union for the day) or even higher, if you use your skills wisely you can go a whole battle without getting touch by a raid skill, that dismissing that skills like Amaterasu's will make you potentially take zero damage around 50% of the time.
    Saying that the amount of experience that you'll get it's humongous in relation to what most people can solo (regarding Ultimate that is really tough after 100 even if you're there manually doing it of course) and it only takes around 5 minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J4fusion View Post
    but then again EX is easier.
    I mean this part of my words, saying y'all are right. But I'm keeping my goal of 200 ULT. I'll keep in mind to keep doing EX for PP.

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