Thread: Debuff Caps and skills

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

As ATK and DEF debuffs are a core element of strategic planning, my Elemental Team-building Guide discusses options to reach the caps for each element. Many of them are in the future, but they're important to keep in mind when planning Miracle ticket usage.

Wait, reading that again, the element- debuffs don't go over 50% when combined with Def Down? Well shit, I thought they stacked up on top of def-.

Since they're effectively "just" def- skills just for specific elements, I probably should put them on the list I just made. Pretty sure we don't have any yet though.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Wait, reading that again, the element- debuffs don't go over 50% when combined with Def Down? Well shit, I thought they stacked up on top of def-.

Elemental defense down is clearly stated as counting towards the -50% cap in the JP wiki (source).

防御ダウン †
最終下限値-50%（属性耐性ダウン含む)

As you say, they're slightly weaker variants of class C DEF debuffs that don't help off-element kamihime.

Thanks guys! I though that maybe we already had more ways to reach the cap that I was not aware of. Since that's not the case we'll have to just wait.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Wait, reading that again, the element- debuffs don't go over 50% when combined with Def Down? Well shit, I thought they stacked up on top of def-.

That was going to be my next question, well, still helps a lot in single element teams though.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Kama, March 2018 (element specific, miserable success rate)

Kama seens to be really interesting. From what I read she has like 10% sucess rate, but if all her debuffs stick just her skills alone will give 40% def down. (A frame + Element frame, also extra debuffs). Makes me wonder how much mordred's Vicissitudes of Fortune would help her.

So, now that Yukimura and Masamune are here, I'd like to point out that Wrath Bow is Eidolon frame (or C, or X, but certainly not A or B).