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    Will the 100% eidolons be available through rerolling accounts or are they in their own seperate gacha?

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    Not even heavy whaling would grant u 100% eidolons. Especially the chance for the first one is really low. Once 4 pieces or even all 6 will become released, it won't be hard to get one. The problem is, u have to wait 1 year more

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    Quote Originally Posted by fucka View Post
    Not even heavy whaling would grant u 100% eidolons.--
    Depends on your definition of heavy whaling...

    I'd say heavy whales are the people who already have all - or almost all - of the gacha Eidolons at LMB. That means having invested many, many times 10k+ dollars into the game. And people like that can easily afford to spam another 10k+ to get at least one copy of each of the Eidolons when they release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    Depends on your definition of heavy whaling...

    I'd say heavy whales are the people who already have all - or almost all - of the gacha Eidolons at LMB. That means having invested many, many times 10k+ dollars into the game. And people like that can easily afford to spam another 10k+ to get at least one copy of each of the Eidolons when they release.
    10k+ more still don't mean, u will get one copy of the 100% eidolon for sure. Like I said, especially the chance for the first one is low, because its the only one. Well, if u say unlimited whaling, then u are right. u could get everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fucka View Post
    10k+ more still don't mean, u will get one copy of the 100% eidolon for sure. --
    Nothing is ever certain, but for Belial, if you whop in 10k and the bonus modifier is 2.5 like JP wiki says for Eidolons, then you're 99.39% chance likely to get one. And you're expected to find 5.097 copies. With no rate bonus, it's 89% and 2.2 copies expected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    Nothing is ever certain, but for Belial, if you whop in 10k and the bonus modifier is 2.5 like JP wiki says for Eidolons, then you're 99.39% chance likely to get one. And you're expected to find 5.097 copies. With no rate bonus, it's 89% and 2.2 copies expected.
    According to reports, the +100% eidolons have a lower draw rate than other SSR eidolons. Since my Gatcha calculator assumes that the draw rate of each SSR eidolon is the same, it won't correctly predict your odds of drawing a +100% eidolon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanahtlig View Post
    According to reports, the +100% eidolons have a lower draw rate than other SSR eidolons.--
    That'd be quite expected since they're whale-traps. Odd how they haven't mentioned that in the JP wiki. Or maybe I didn't know where to look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanahtlig View Post
    According to reports, the +100% eidolons have a lower draw rate than other SSR eidolons. Since my Gatcha calculator assumes that the draw rate of each SSR eidolon is the same, it won't correctly predict your odds of drawing a +100% eidolon.
    Do you know if this also holds true for the SSR Eidolon tickets? If that is not the case i'd imagine you would eventually get your choice. If all are equal the odds of landing any single one would be 1/27... when all 100% eidolons are released. Assuming price remains 3,000 gold a ticket it's not incredibly terrible, but still spendy, that said, probably still better than when they are featured because you still would need to roll an SSR, then have it be an eidolon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    Nothing is ever certain, but for Belial, if you whop in 10k and the bonus modifier is 2.5 like JP wiki says for Eidolons, then you're 99.39% chance likely to get one. And you're expected to find 5.097 copies. With no rate bonus, it's 89% and 2.2 copies expected.
    Im not sure about that. what I knew is that, many heavy whales (according to my definition) had quit the game (dmm version), because they got pissed off by the droprate.

    If anyone is willing to do a little test spending 10k real money, I would appreciate it

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