Thread: Accessory Quests

Originally Posted by CBW

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SSR is what, 1k to 1.3K ATK? That's still 2-3% raw ATK stat (and not as easily diluted). Throw on some junk stun and ability modifiers, maybe something better, and it's WAY better than stopping that enhance train.

Uh, yeah, sure. But um, you're kinda ignoring that Rs and SRs have stats too. An R has about half the stats that a SSR has (500-590 atk when compared to 1080-1300 SSRs), so it's not about "0 vs. 2-3% raw Atk stat", it's "1-1.5% vs. 2-3% raw Atk stat". And then if there's an Atk+ on that R and none on the SSR, then it's going to be pretty close in powerlevel.

What's worse, when you talk about not having enough time, then you also have to consider enhancement costs. Rs are 3145 exp to level up, SSRs are 13345 exp. So with our current status of max 3 Accessories, you're literally decking an entire Hime with either 3x Rs (1500-1770 Atk) or 1x SSR (1080-1300 Atk). And this is assuming that you have ALL the Gems in the world - if you're actually saving Gems and compressing your SR fodder to level 21 fodders (or such), then the SSRs require more like 20k exp total to level up.


And finally, the biggest problem that you have with that tactic is that... well, if you're counting 5x Accessory slots, at that point the ONLY thing that matters is that you have 3x Tiaras in there. So 3x level 1 N Tiaras is stronger than 5x level 50 SSRs.
... well, I haven't properly mathed that, but seriously, the Tiara set bonus is just absolutely insane. But hey, at least you'll get to use two of your non-Tiara SSRs as stat-padders per Hime?

Originally Posted by Slashley

And finally, the biggest problem that you have with that tactic is that... well, if you're counting 5x Accessory slots, at that point the ONLY thing that matters is that you have 3x Tiaras in there. So 3x level 1 N Tiaras is stronger than 5x level 50 SSRs.
... well, I haven't properly mathed that, but seriously, the Tiara set bonus is just absolutely insane. But hey, at least you'll get to use two of your non-Tiara SSRs as stat-padders per Hime?

Did I miss something here? Do we get bonus by matching accessory types?

Originally Posted by Torkov

Did I miss something here? Do we get bonus by matching accessory types?

We will once 2nd Anniversary patch hits. That's either mid Feb 2019 (Nutaku anniversary date) or early April 2019 (DMM anniversary date). Nutaku was inconsistent with patching stuff on the 1st Anniversary, basically giving us half in Feb and half in April.

However, there is a catch. Accessory set bonuses don't activate until you have all five Accessory slots open on that Hime. And that means grinding (the real) Ragnarok Disasters, the first of which came out on the 2nd Anniversary patch on DMM.

Ok thanks, so I don't need to ruin myself on re equiping everything now, just to plan on ruining myself doing it in the long run XD

Originally Posted by Slashley

Uh, yeah, sure. But um, you're kinda ignoring that Rs and SRs have stats too. An R has about half the stats that a SSR has (500-590 atk when compared to 1080-1300 SSRs), so it's not about "0 vs. 2-3% raw Atk stat", it's "1-1.5% vs. 2-3% raw Atk stat". And then if there's an Atk+ on that R and none on the SSR, then it's going to be pretty close in powerlevel.

What's worse, when you talk about not having enough time, then you also have to consider enhancement costs. Rs are 3145 exp to level up, SSRs are 13345 exp. So with our current status of max 3 Accessories, you're literally decking an entire Hime with either 3x Rs (1500-1770 Atk) or 1x SSR (1080-1300 Atk). And this is assuming that you have ALL the Gems in the world - if you're actually saving Gems and compressing your SR fodder to level 21 fodders (or such), then the SSRs require more like 20k exp total to level up.


And finally, the biggest problem that you have with that tactic is that... well, if you're counting 5x Accessory slots, at that point the ONLY thing that matters is that you have 3x Tiaras in there. So 3x level 1 N Tiaras is stronger than 5x level 50 SSRs.
... well, I haven't properly mathed that, but seriously, the Tiara set bonus is just absolutely insane. But hey, at least you'll get to use two of your non-Tiara SSRs as stat-padders per Hime?

I will consider tiaras when it comes round. Is there a list of every set bonus? You don't level 35 accessories without having a few sets.

Levelling R still has the problem that it would be immediately replaced. I do not value the ability and stun modifiers as worthless, so an SSR with 3 modifiers of any type is going to be better than an R with a single modifier. I do see a difference in my ability to stun bosses. I don't care that it can't be quantified.

As for time and effort... the game isn't exactly difficult or the grind especially long right now. I can dedicate all my time to SSR (14 days each). If I'm ever put in a position that my SR fire team has to perform, I will probably take shortcuts. That team just isn't worth it.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I will consider tiaras when it comes round. Is there a list of every set bonus? You don't level 35 accessories without having a few sets.

Levelling R still has the problem that it would be immediately replaced. I do not value the ability and stun modifiers as worthless, so an SSR with 3 modifiers of any type is going to be better than an R with a single modifier. I do see a difference in my ability to stun bosses. I don't care that it can't be quantified.

As for time and effort... the game isn't exactly difficult or the grind especially long right now. I can dedicate all my time to SSR (14 days each). If I'm ever put in a position that my SR fire team has to perform, I will probably take shortcuts. That team just isn't worth it.

Gotta love the logout feature.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I will consider tiaras when it comes round. Is there a list of every set bonus? You don't level 35 accessories without having a few sets. --

The only one that matters are Tiaras, with their stunning +15% dbl +15% trpl. Because that might not hit home just how stunning that is, it takes you average attacks per turn from 1.14 to 1.59. So that's a ~40% increase in your auto-attack damage, not to mention that it lowers your average turns per full burst from 8.77 to 6.29. Of course, +burst and damage taken will realistically accelerate those numbers.

Oh, and the runner-up set bonus are necklaces, which give 10% chance for 35% Crits. So that's nifty when it procs, but you'll still want Tiaras.

I don't understand what you mean "14 days each to SSR", but hey, you do you, I guess.

personally, i feel like SR has a decent drop rate if you can clear AQ4 (at the very least the mixed one so you have a chance to get every element).

it's not too hard to get SR stuff, cause with enough grinding , it's roughly 3-6 drops of them a day (depending on your grid). And there's a slight chance of even AQ2 throwing one at you (but don't count on it, i only seen it happen once).

but if people are worried about SSR, then that's where the point trade comes in... i'd easily get two good SSR rings from there (unless the SR stuff throws something good or a plat chest gives me something). then when you can get the 5 accessory slots, then you go and get the 3 tiaras...

besides, those acc points aren't used for anything else I know of... (unless they have something to do with the slot unlocks later on, but not sure of that)

Originally Posted by MagicSpice

personally, i feel like SR has a decent drop rate if you can clear AQ4 (at the very least the mixed one so you have a chance to get every element).

it's not too hard to get SR stuff, cause with enough grinding , it's roughly 3-6 drops of them a day (depending on your grid). And there's a slight chance of even AQ2 throwing one at you (but don't count on it, i only seen it happen once).

but if people are worried about SSR, then that's where the point trade comes in... i'd easily get two good SSR rings from there (unless the SR stuff throws something good or a plat chest gives me something). then when you can get the 5 accessory slots, then you go and get the 3 tiaras...

besides, those acc points aren't used for anything else I know of... (unless they have something to do with the slot unlocks later on, but not sure of that)

SSRs are pretty much good for one thing: being food for better SSRs that almost never come, or decent SRs.

Is it known how the tiara combo bonus interacts with guaranteed combo passives and abilities like Cybele-U and Brahma? If the tiara +dbl decreases the rate of triple attack in these cases, it wouldn't seem as useful on them.