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  1. have two ssr rings with mode gauge reduction
    but no amon unleached to do rofl reduction.


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    Ran the Water Rank 4 Accessory Quest today with my Water team and had more resists of Affliction resistance down on Mordred (4x) than Cthulhu's DEF debuff (1x with 3 stacks of affliction rate up). Affliction rate up seems to make a very noticeable difference, making previously unreliable debuffs fairly reliable. I now have 8 affliction rate up accessories, so I should be able to loadout pretty much my entire team with them.
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    You have more Affliction accessories for Water than what I have across all elements...

    Anyway, it'd be nice to to know how well the accessory Affliction compares to the Union Affliction buff. Since around 30-40 stacks there is enough to hit 100% hitrate on debuffs for off-element Hime. But if it it's that visible with 6%, then 1 Union Affliction stack is probably much less than 1%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    You have more Affliction accessories for Water than what I have across all elements...
    Keep in mind I'm counting Rs. The necklaces typically have affliction rate up. I've made sure not to use any Rs with useful buffs (affliction rate up, drop rate up) for enhancement.
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    So have I! I have found these ever, all max level since there's so damn few:
    1x Thunder SR with affliction, def (Thor)
    1x Holy SR with affliction, +dbl (Sol)
    2x fire R (Yamaraja)
    2x water R (Ryu-Oh)
    1x dark R (Nyarl)

    Today I found Water SR Ring with only Affliction... not sure what I'll do with that. Leveling it to level 40 is a pain, and without a secondary effect it seems like such a waste... ... oh well, I guess I'll let my inventory fill up again and if there's no better target, Ryu-Oh is getting her set completed. Dear god she needs it, I'm pretty sure her Black Propaganda is lower success rate than what debuffs usually are.

    Anyway, random is going to random. Maybe I'll get plenty of double Affliction SRs soon? Probably from Wind, where I don't have Oberon to give it to. Cybele is going to be happy.

    I just wish that I had thought about using level 1 Rs with Drop Rate+ before you said it, I've probably enchanted a good amount of those away. Doh.

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    So what's the recommended action for people who aren't good enough to get SSRs? Power up SRs, or sell?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coconut View Post
    So what's the recommended action for people who aren't good enough to get SSRs? Power up SRs, or sell?
    I'm strong enough to clear Rank 4, and I'm powering up Rs.
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    This is a bit late for the discussion, but since I found my way here, I thought I'd add my quick acc leveling guide to the discussion. We had a lot of discussion, I ran MANY simulations. I put up a little guide on my union's discord.

    The best bang for the buck is to level your SR to level 21. Use 20 of those, whatever element they are and no matter if they "Supered" to level 27. The resulting SSR will be at least level 39 and will require no more than 20 additional level 21 fodder. You will never need a third enhance.

    Optimal Accessory Enhancement Discussion-exhibit_1.png

    Level 21 SR requires 8 R ( or 16 N) same element. You get enough materials from AQ3 to make 2 a day, with leftovers. More on the "leftovers" later.

    I wrote this on level 21:

    Why level 21? Actually, level 18 through 29 are possible choices.

    As the level goes down, gem cost goes up and total drops (R & SR) go down. The problem is the increase in number of same element SRs skyrocket. At level 18, at least 50% (20) SRs must be same element. At level 21, that number drops to 20%. This is a little worse than the ratio 1 in 6, but there will be Super Successes. Level 21 is the minimum level to not get stuck with the wrong accessories.

    As the level goes up, the gem cost goes down, but the total drops go up. At level 21, 400 accessory fodder are needed. At level 29, 620 fodder are needed. Fodder is the ultimate restriction. Level 21 is also the fastest.

    In casual play, the cost of levelling an accessory doesn't dent my gems. This is where I use the "leftovers." I only farm AQ3, and I will get 3 SR drops and fodder to level 2 of them. The extras pile up, so I throw them unlevelled into the level 39+ SSR 5 at a time. The extra 20k gems means very little to me, but it can reduce the number of days I spend levelling an SSR from 20 down to 15. I currently anticipate taking 25 weeks to level my first full accessory set to 50. I won't touch AQ4.

    BTW, I get lots of SSR in AQ3 and enough accessory points to buy 2 SSR a month. I use Snatch 3.

    Regarding how to use the table:

    The first column is the number of L21 SRs that you would need if they were all off element. At level 37, you would need 25 off element.

    The second column is the number of same element you would need to keep the second enhance under 20. For example, if you have 10 same element, that is worth 15 off element.

    The third element is the off element needed to complete the enhance. 25-15 = 10 off element needed. 10 off element + 10 same element = 20 fodder in 1 enhance.

    You can substitute additional same element fodder at the rate of 2 same = 3 off. "Super'd" fodder is worth extra too. For those, I would use them first. You might end up paying 1-2k gems more in the end but save a day of farming.
    Last edited by Laventale; 03-26-2018 at 09:43 PM. Reason: Prevented double post.

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    The problem with using low-level fodder like this is that you also have to use leveled fodder for the first batch. This increases the cost of the second batch, since you're synthing a higher level accessory (39 instead of 32). I don't have an issue with not being able to level accessories fast enough, as I don't have enough accessories worth leveling in the first place, especially SSRs. For my last SSR, I used the following recipe:
    SSR 1-50
    20 SR1 to LV32
    8 same-element SR20, 7 same-element SR25, 3 same-element SR23, 2 SR20
    66000 gems

    That uses 18 same-element SRs, which takes 3 weeks of AQ4 to farm. That's faster than I acquire good SSRs worth leveling. I auto AQ3 with Mordred. Haven't tried with D'art, but it's worth a shot I suppose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanahtlig View Post
    I don't have an issue with not being able to level accessories fast enough, as I don't have enough accessories worth leveling in the first place, especially SSRs.
    I am almost done levelling my 4th SSR (I started a couple months late), but have already have 14 (9 drop, 2 from AQ4, and bought 3). I use Mordred w/ Snatch 3 in AQ3 (everywhere but Thunder where I use Sleipnir w/o Snatch).

    There doesn't seem to be a shortage, but I'm a beggar, not a chooser.

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