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    Post Optimal Accessory Enhancement Discussion

    Now that I've created a simulator to model the accessory enhancement process (Accessory Enhancement Calculator), we can work on optimal enhancement strategies.

    Point 1: Conserve gems by using the fewest number of batches possible.
    Point 2: Make the best use of fodder resources by using all fodder available (rarities and elements).
    Point 3: Conserve gems by using the highest rarity fodder possible, and using the rest to level that fodder (since LV1 synths are nearly free).
    Point 4: Conserve gems by rear-loading high-value items into later batches, lowering the base level of each batch as much as possible.

    Based on my runs of Rank 4 accessory quests this week, it looks like we can expect ~6 SR drops for every 1 SSR. That means we'll likely be relying primarily on SRs for fodder, at least if you want to have 9-12 maxed SSR accessories anytime soon. If you rely on SRs only (assuming a 1:5 ratio of same-element to off-element), you'll need to spend about 160k gems. If we mix in a 1:6 ratio of SSRs to SRs, we can lower that to ~120k.

    By my estimates, that puts us at 1.44 mil gems for a full set of SSR accessories, which we can farm fodder for at a rate of 1x 120k accessory per 8 days. That seems doable, though it'll require some gem farming.

    Last edited by sanahtlig; 01-06-2018 at 02:51 PM.
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    Since you aren't uncluding N are Rs in your levelling, I assume you are selling those.

    Considering my drop ratio, with your initial setup, you would have dropped and sold about 19 Matching R and 95 Not matching R, or more accurately, 19 R per element.

    Selling those give you 23000 gems and 3450 Acc points



    Now, let's consider you use those as fodder. Ideally, you use your Rs 19 by 19 on an SSR of the same element. This initial step costs you 11500 gems, and you get one level 29 SSR for each element.
    You now have an SSR worth 968 exp and 5 SSR worth 645 exp

    Now redo the levelling with those:

    First step, use 20 not matching SR for 2000 gems. Get up to level 32
    Second step, use 10 not matching SR, 8 matching SR, 2 not matching SSR1 for 64000 gems. Get up to level 43
    Third step, use 5 not matching SSR29 and 1 matching SSR29 for 25800 gems. You reach level 50


    This way spent 103300 gems in total.

    Your way spent 123400 gems, saved 23000 gems by selling Rs so you can take it down to 100400 gems, and also used 8 extra not matching SR. It got 3450 Acc P instead which represents a third of a matching SR.


    Basically, my way saved 7 to 8 Not matching SRs for roughtly the same total price and a tiny bit of extra enhancing time. My way wasn't optimal by any means and the material balance is terrible, but it should be an easy way to understand my point: if you properly want to enhance your Accessories "optimally" like the title says, you should not sell Rs but use them as Enhance material instead. You can use them on other Enhance material, or raw directly on the SSR you want to max, as this will get you to your goal quicker for a significantly higher amount of gems.

    By the way, you can do almost the exact same calcs to notice selling Ns isn't optimal either, though the result is less obvious. Right there, by using 20 Ns on an level 1 SR that match those Ns, which costs 2000 gems + 1000 from not selling them, and do it 3 times, you get enough extra exp to cut 2 Not matching SRs from the levelling and save 8400 gems from using less materials on the high level SSR. Effectively, you spend 600 gems for 2 SRs, which is worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sfay View Post
    Since you aren't uncluding N are Rs in your levelling, I assume you are selling those.
    Actually, I was waiting for someone like you to find something to do with them. The gains are actually a bit more than I expected. Good job.
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    I hope an accessory guide is coming out at some point. There are many thing unclear about the whole accessory system.
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    If you're not going to sell those but use them as an enchanting materials. Wouldn't it be unlikely for someone to have enough accessory P to buy something from the shop at the end of the week? I suppose you'll just have to pick a week when you're going to do the enhancement for maximum gain, and perhaps spending 1-2k jewels for storage expansion too.

    Also, typically in case where cost is related to the level of the accessory, it might be a better idea to front load the accessory cost so you get the cheaper enhancement. In your example sfay, will doing step 3 before doing step 2 results in lower overall cost?
    Last edited by Shieun; 12-25-2017 at 04:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shieun View Post
    If you're not going to sell those but use them as an enchanting materials. Wouldn't it be unlikely for someone to have enough accessory P to buy something from the shop at the end of the week? I suppose you'll just have to pick a week when you're going to do the enhancement for maximum gain, and perhaps spending 1-2k jewels for storage expansion too.

    Also, typically in case where cost is related to the level of the accessory, it might be a better idea to front load the accessory cost so you get the cheaper enhancement. In your example sfay, will doing step 3 before doing step 2 results in lower overall cost?
    Indeed, not selling Ns and Rs will result in a really low Acc P gain overall, but that doesn't really matter. Considering the effort needed to level an SSR to max, you don't want to level SSR rings, as those have one less bonus effect and the worst stats out of all accessories. Therefore, the best way to use whatever you buy from the shop is using those as fodder (SRs preferably), and the Acc P you get from selling your stuff is miles from tie the materials you gain from not selling them.


    As for your second question, you're wrong, it's actually the opposite. You want tour Accessory to level as slowly as possible at the beginning so it's level remains as low as possible for the future steps. If I do my example backwards:

    First step, use 4 not matching SR, 8 matching SR, 2 not matching SSR1, 5 not matching SSR29 and 1 matching SSR29 for 2000 gems. Get up to level 41
    Second step, use 20 not matching SR for 82000 gems. Get up to level 48
    Third step, use 6 not matching SR for 28800 gems. Get up to level 50

    By doing this you just spent 21000 extra gems. You should start with the lower exp value materials.

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    So I suppose the last step cost is relatively minor, it's the mid point enhancement that is likely to be the major gem sink....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shieun View Post
    If you're not going to sell those but use them as an enchanting materials. Wouldn't it be unlikely for someone to have enough accessory P to buy something from the shop at the end of the week?
    Whether this matters depends on how precious SSR accessories are to you. If you can clear rank 4, you should be getting about 1 superior-tier SSR per element per week as a drop. You can only cap about 1 per week anyway, so there's actually no need to purchase them from the shop. If you can't clear rank 4, then your priorities might change.
    Last edited by sanahtlig; 12-25-2017 at 08:06 AM.
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    Just so that i understand it correctly, they reset our accesory points weekly? i thought it was only a cap to prevent you from making more than these 2500 points/week?

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    I still have my accessory P from last week.

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