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  1. #161
    Quote Originally Posted by Hentaison View Post
    Currently on rank 35 and about to get Soul Joan as I need 30 more Soul points. Was contemplating on getting Amaterasu as she would be a better fit than Mars. Just grinding SP Quests and Raid Quests, can do some AP25's but getting owned on anything above. Just wanted to see if I am headed in the right direction?
    In terms of strengthening your fire team, Mars would actually be the better choice imo. Yamaraja already covers the B-frames well enough and with Mars debuff + Ambush, you'd hit the def down cap. Res down can also help you to land other debuffs more reliably if you're not playing mordred. Amaterasu would be a stronger pick if you also wanted to use her in other teams, like for example dark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicSpice View Post
    Okay, so I'm gonna continue this from the other thread i started: .....
    Do you really need to strengthen your light team further currently? Your team is pretty much the same as mine, just with Raphael instead of Michael and with that you can cruise through any current content. Michael would just add more build diversity (at least until awakening). I'd personally rather focus on key members for teams that aren't somewhat complete yet. Amaterasu would prob be my top pick for your setup currently, but if you intend to roll on cybele, it's prob best to just wait and decide afterwards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainNoobCN View Post
    -- can you suggest me better kamihime for future teams? --
    At a quick glance, it looks like you're at a crossroads where you need to decide the direction you want to head to...

    I wouldn't recommend anything from Thunder to you, except Thor if you're interested in try-harding Union events.
    You're 2-3 SSRs away from a team in Water, 1-2 in Fire, 2 from Wind (and only one is available in this ticket), 1 from Light (I think?) and Osiris is a possibility for your Dark.

    So really? It comes down to what your playstyle preference is.
    Quote Originally Posted by blubbergott View Post
    In terms of strengthening your fire team, Mars would actually be the better choice imo. Yamaraja already covers the B-frames well enough and with Mars debuff + Ambush, you'd hit the def down cap. Res down can also help you to land other debuffs more reliably if you're not playing mordred. Amaterasu would be a stronger pick if you also wanted to use her in other teams, like for example dark.
    Supposedly, Fire relies on Amaterasu's Blind which supposedly has an exceptional affliction rate and proc-rate.

    But I don't know, since I'm not fortunate enough to have her.

  3. #163
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainNoobCN View Post
    Dark
    my current dark team is: susanoo, satan, dark amatersu and hades.
    to be honest i think that all i need to do is just to replace susanoo for thanatos and i'm all good with this team.
    and ofc, she is not included in this miracle ticket so she isn't part of my options.
    I would actually replace Susanoo for Osiris and in August we will get Satan Awakened, so you don't actually need Thanatos.

  4. #164
    @CaptainNoob That's a lot of options for sure. Imo you can't go wrong with element RST down, so either Mars or Tsukuyomi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    At a quick glance, it looks like you're at a crossroads where you need to decide the direction you want to head to...

    I wouldn't recommend anything from Thunder to you, except Thor if you're interested in try-harding Union events.
    You're 2-3 SSRs away from a team in Water, 1-2 in Fire, 2 from Wind (and only one is available in this ticket), 1 from Light (I think?) and Osiris is a possibility for your Dark.

    So really? It comes down to what your playstyle preference is.Supposedly, Fire relies on Amaterasu's Blind which supposedly has an exceptional affliction rate and proc-rate.
    hm..i heard that thor's paralyze skill last for 30%, but does it have an a good chance to land or will most likely miss as it's overpower debuff?
    it will be better to pick her than marduk?
    to be honest i've thought about osiris once, but her heal looks kinda weak for SSR and if i want dizzy i may just use echidna as support.
    i think that it'll be better to just use andromeda as healer and go for satan-hades-dark amaterasu-thantos so i can reach the 50% def cap

    hmm...i don't have that much of preferance playstyle, i just try to keep them all balanced as much as i can.
    for now, aside of thunder, all of ther other elements have over 100% assault in term of grids (while thunder at 92% assault)
    and i always just use the advantage element when it comes to event, i won't use the same team for all content in game.
    that why i don't have a main team and just use all of them.
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  6. #166
    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    Supposedly, Fire relies on Amaterasu's Blind which supposedly has an exceptional affliction rate and proc-rate.

    But I don't know, since I'm not fortunate enough to have her.
    It definitely helps quite a bit, especially in longer fights, but Yamaraja's combo down can somewhat substitute that and the faster things die, the less damage they can do. In the end it's kinda situational, if you need to turtle something out, amaterasu is the better choice, if you can just kill it, then mars is.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainNoobCN View Post
    to be honest i've thought about osiris once, but her heal looks kinda weak for SSR and if i want dizzy i may just use echidna as support.
    i think that it'll be better to just use andromeda as healer and go for satan-hades-dark amaterasu-thantos so i can reach the 50% def cap
    With Osiris you'd usually play Shingen to take advantage of the frequent bursts. Question is if you really need more heal than amaterasus regen and osiris heal. Spike damage output would be a lot higher.

    From the kh you listed, my choice would definitely be tsukuyomi, since she's like the 1 core ssr you'll always use in light, no matter the build. But I might be a bit biased, since light's always been my strongest

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainNoobCN View Post
    hm..i heard that thor's paralyze skill last for 30%, but does it have an a good chance to land or will most likely miss as it's overpower debuff?
    It has a miserable hitrate. But it's still a "oh, it landed, so I won" kinda thing.
    The primary use is in Union events where the Union sets 100 Affliction buff, so Thor gets to like 90%+ Paralyze. Then you just solo whatever level you want.

    And if you don't really have a preference and always want to play with elemental advantage, Water then? That seems to be your weakest element. However, there isn't a Fire event for the next three months, so there will almost be a new Miracle Ticket in time for the next Fire event...

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    Quote Originally Posted by blubbergott View Post
    With Osiris you'd usually play Shingen to take advantage of the frequent bursts. Question is if you really need more heal than amaterasus regen and osiris heal. Spike damage output would be a lot higher.

    From the kh you listed, my choice would definitely be tsukuyomi, since she's like the 1 core ssr you'll always use in light, no matter the build. But I might be a bit biased, since light's always been my strongest
    i haven't used amaterasu's regeneration for a while as i didn't need it, but isn't it give regeneration just to herself?
    oh, i ignored the burst gauge boost, it's like what i plan to do with michael in light team and ashirat in water teams to guaranteed her 100% burst

    hmm....it's 2 votes for tsukuyomi i see :O

    Quote Originally Posted by Sora View Post
    I would actually replace Susanoo for Osiris and in August we will get Satan Awakened, so you don't actually need Thanatos.
    as it's now, i think that osiris have weak healling for SSR, maybe she will get awakened form sooner or later and then i'll see her as better option.
    but right now? don't know.
    as for satan, i heard that elemental resist debuff is also uncluded in the 50% cap, so if i give up on thanatos i'll havr 45% def debuff with amaterasu and awakened satan, which is still high.
    so maybe if there is a better option for dark i'll change my mind and pick it instead of thanatos

    Quote Originally Posted by Yolodesu View Post
    @CaptainNoob That's a lot of options for sure. Imo you can't go wrong with element RST down, so either Mars or Tsukuyomi.
    i'm a little conflicted with mars as i'm not sure which kami to replace for her, i need brynhildr for her healling and also enma for the debuff as sshingen ex/ is ambush.
    but i can just replace raphael for light tsukuyomi and then along smiper shot and diana's def debuff reach the 50% cap?
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  9. #169
    Quote Originally Posted by blubbergott View Post
    It definitely helps quite a bit, especially in longer fights, but Yamaraja's combo down can somewhat substitute that and the faster things die, the less damage they can do. In the end it's kinda situational, if you need to turtle something out, amaterasu is the better choice, if you can just kill it, then mars is.



    With Osiris you'd usually play Shingen to take advantage of the frequent bursts. Question is if you really need more heal than amaterasus regen and osiris heal. Spike damage output would be a lot higher.

    From the kh you listed, my choice would definitely be tsukuyomi, since she's like the 1 core ssr you'll always use in light, no matter the build. But I might be a bit biased, since light's always been my strongest
    Dark Amaterasus regen applies just for herself.
    I would also go with Osiris because you can build a burst Build with Shingen.
    However I would rather have Thanatos instead of Satan in my team because of -50% Debuff. (Satan awakend -45%)
    Therefore I don't need Ambush as a EX-Skill. But I don't know... is the difference between -45% to -50% Def down actually worth?
    Last edited by Sora; 03-26-2018 at 11:24 AM.

  10. #170
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainNoobCN View Post
    as for satan, i heard that elemental resist debuff is also uncluded in the 50% cap, so if i give up on thanatos i'll havr 45% def debuff with amaterasu and awakened satan, which is still high.

    i'm a little conflicted with mars as i'm not sure which kami to replace for her, i need brynhildr for her healling and also enma for the debuff as sshingen ex/ is ambush.
    but i can just replace raphael for light tsukuyomi and then along smiper shot and diana's def debuff reach the 50% cap?
    Could still run Ambush if you really wanted the 50%. 20% ama, 20% ambush, 10% satan res down. Dunno if that 10% increase is really worth it, but since your kh cover pretty much everything, you got complete flexibility regarding ex skill.

    Fire's really a tough call, i'd either replace Yamaraja with Amaterasu or any of the 3 other than Svarog with Mars (which would depend on the encounter). Mars prob higher damage potential, Amaterasu higher defensive one, really up to preference.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sora View Post
    Dark Amaterasus regen applies just for herself.
    I would also go with Osiris because you can build a burst Build with Shingen.
    However I would rather have Thanatos instead of Satan in my team because of -50% Debuff. (Satan awakend -45%)
    Therefore I don't need Ambush as a EX-Skill. But I don't know... is the difference between -45% to -50% Def down actually worth?
    Mb, thought it was the same as the fire one. You'd still need ambush with Thanatos if you want to hit 50% (or cover A frame def down in another way). Doesn't really matter if you get 10% from res from satan, or 20% C frame from Thanatos. With satan you'd arguably need ambush less than with Thanatos (45% vs. 40%). So from a debuff perspective, it doesn't really matter. Satan is better at overdrive control, while Thanatos is better at burst generation. Kinda up to you which you prefer, but debuffs shouldn't really play a role in the decision here.

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