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    You have a choice between Gaia, Hastur, and Titania. If your goal is to simply use the team against Thunder, any of these will do. Titania is good for Burst and Berserk builds, but a Berserk build requires SSR Cybele to work effectively. Hastur is an Oberon replacement and can fit in multiple builds, but won't provide much value over Oberon when you're lacking debuffs. Gaia is excellent against Thunder, but tends to be replaced by Titania in offensive builds. Against elements other than Thunder, you'd probably be stuck with Mordred for the time being regardless of pick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yolodesu View Post
    I'll stop spamming about that, since it's not the thread for it, but your comparison doesn't really make sense.
    Would you say Susanoo is a weaker version of Svarog? no, since they don't fit the same role.

    you wan't to see comparisons with Eros? Hades and Amateratsu are way more similar to her than Gaia is...
    You can compare her to Hades and Amaterasu, in a completely different aspect than what we were discussing. The two can be compared in a sense both have a party defense up but I've been focusing on her barrier, which acts as a weaker damage nullification buff. That's why I'm using Gaia as the example as she is the only one with a party wide nullify.

    And no, I wouldn't use an example like 'Sasanoo is weaker version of Svarog'. But that doesn't mean I can't compare those specific two, as there is plenty to compare between them.
    Last edited by Aidoru; 03-27-2018 at 04:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidoru View Post
    I am not reducing her to a 1200 damage cut, I'm reducing her to a weaker Gaia. Gaia doesn't cut damage, she completely nullifies it. I never mentioned the specific amount Eros reduces because I already do factor in her other buff.
    Comparing gaia with eros when light has no dmg cuts, just brilliant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Comparing gaia with eros when light has no dmg cuts, just brilliant.
    Unregistered one liner. Meh. At least add something to the discussion if you have something to say.

    Whether or not light does or doesn't have any other sources of 'damage cuts' doesn't matter in the slightest. You may as well say teams not using Joan are 'just brilliant'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blubbergott View Post
    Haha, well, no need to max out the weapons (at least at first), I'll just get 1 copy each, --
    Note that Relic weapons don't have a Burst effect at 0-stars. Herc's weapons gain -10% at 1-star and -25% at LMB, for example. So can you get a feel on how they work without the burst effects...

    I mean, if yes, then can you do the same even without Relic weapons at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidoru View Post
    Unregistered one liner. Meh. At least add something to the discussion if you have something to say.

    Whether or not light does or doesn't have any other sources of 'damage cuts' doesn't matter in the slightest. You may as well say teams not using Joan are 'just brilliant'.
    You cant just randomly compare gaia with eros, gaia is awakened, eros isnt, light has no dmg cuts so your best bet for a way to reduce dmg appart from atk down is eros (which she has too), that makes her valuable on her own, it isnt like wind where you go straight for gaia or thunder/water who have multiple dmg cut choices, you either run eros on light or your dmg cut is unexistant (who would use joan on light anyways), and most importantly, why do people compare himes from diff elements here? the love (bias actually) for off element himes is what makes people here struggle with endgame content (instead of steamrolling it how its supposed to be), i dont wanna think how horribly AQ5 and future world ragnaroks will be for off element himes users.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argo View Post
    I got some gift cards for my birthday and all of a sudden I find out a Miracle Ticket is available? Cool. I don't think I've posted here since the last one. And naturally, I've come for some advice about who to pick. Here's my Kamihime list:


    Fire:
    (SSR) None.
    (SR) Amon, Agni, Ragaraja, Raguel, Nataku, Brynhildr
    (R) Zeruel, Taikoubou, Rakshasa, Dazbog, Ignis, Baphomet, Nergal

    Water:
    (SSR) Ea.
    (SR) Nike, Cupid, Parvati, Belphegor
    (R) Abzu, Ganges, Oto-Hime, Circe, Apsara, Kushinada, Rushalka, Undine

    Wind:
    (SSR) None.
    (SR) Krampus, Guan Yu (Aisha), Cronus, Cybele
    (R) Caspiel, Reginleif, Scathach, Puck, Boreas, Zephyrus

    Lightning:
    (SSR) Halloween Michael, Brahma
    (SR) Ramiel, Nemesis, Psyche
    (R) Tlaloc, Cherubim, Verethragna, Skuld, Perun, Indra

    Dark:
    (SSR) None.
    (SR) Nyarlathotep, Bastet, Lu-Bu (Ren), Tsukuyomi
    (R) Apep, Mephistopheles, Astaroth

    Light:
    (SSR) Christmas Satan, Sol (previous Miracle Ticket)
    (SR) Uzume, Belobog, Artemis
    (R) Christmas Perun, Inanna, Dike, Orpheus, Urania



    I feel like my Light team is currently my strongest, with Lightning roughly equal. When I started the game I rerolled and got Halloween Michael so I figured I'd focus on Lighting, but my pulls have been going every which way so far. So I'm not sure what the best thing to do would be, especially since I don't know great gameplay strategies. Right now I'm leaning towards the following, but I'm very much open to recommendations:
    - Tyr, to enhance my Lightning team and also because I really like the look of her. Plus Awakenable, which is something I don't have yet.
    - Thor, also for Lightning boost and Awakenable.
    - Marduk, looks seriously cool.
    - Amaterasu, so I finally have a Fire SSR to complement my abundance of SRs, and I hear she's the best.
    - Svarog, because she looks gorgeous.
    - Nike Unleashed, to enhance my Waters and because I know her better because of the story.
    - Amon Unleashed, also because I like her as a character.
    - Moonlight Maiden Tsukuyomi, because I have her Dark self and I hear she's good for Lights.
    - Gaia, so my Wind team gets an SSR and I hear she's the best.
    - Mars, Shamash, Cthulu, Metatron, and a few others look like they have great scenes from the preview.

    Sooo...yeah. I'm not particular about which element to focus on, but I imagine Light or Lightning would be best since I have a leg up on SSRs for them. I know almost nothing about team compositions, so if you have any advice for me, please, lay it on me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    You cant just randomly compare gaia with eros, gaia is awakened, eros isnt, light has no dmg cuts so your best bet for a way to reduce dmg appart from atk down is eros (which she has too), that makes her valuable on her own, it isnt like wind where you go straight for gaia or thunder/water who have multiple dmg cut choices, you either run eros on light or your dmg cut is unexistant (who would use joan on light anyways), and most importantly, why do people compare himes from diff elements here? the love (bias actually) for off element himes is what makes people here struggle with endgame content (instead of steamrolling it how its supposed to be), i dont wanna think how horribly AQ5 and future world ragnaroks will be for off element himes users.
    I'm not randomly comparing them, whether Gaia has an awakened form or not doesn't matter in what I've been talking about. What I'm comparing about the two in the end is the idea that barrier acts as a weaker nullify. That's it, you're escalating it into something it's not.

    Comparisons exist so people get a general idea of how this or that plays. That should be an obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    The miracle ticket offer expires on april 22, so you can buy it before that date anytime, during that time cybele and thanatos will be released (im not sure if asherah will make it), this means those 2 will be on the 10-chain pool later on but they wont be on the miracle ticket pool aka you wont be able to choose them, as cobble said, this works to plan ahead your jewells to avoid dupes, you dont wanna choose a hime with the mtix, use your jewells then get her again.
    Kamihimes that are released AFTER the Miracle Ticket won't be available to be pulled out from it.
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  10. #220
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    i dont wanna think how horribly AQ5 and future world ragnaroks will be for off element himes users.
    mono element user here o/ let's meet again in few month. Same music since a year. "When this will be released" "you won't be able to do that without playing like this" "damage taken will be so huge that blablabla". Still waiting...

    Quote Originally Posted by Aidoru View Post
    You can compare her to Hades and Amaterasu, in a completely different aspect than what we were discussing. The two can be compared in a sense both have a party defense up but I've been focusing on her barrier, which acts as a weaker damage nullification buff. That's why I'm using Gaia as the example as she is the only one with a party wide nullify.
    Ultimately, even if it prevents damage, barrier feels more like a regen than a damage cut. That's why i think Amateratsu's spell looks very similar.


    Anyway, ppl talking about Shingen, assuming you already have a burst gauge up in your team (Michael), and you're not hitting burst cap, is her ATK weapon still better than the HP one? (elemental dmg vs burst damage increase?) I'm not really planning to farm for it, but i'm curious though.

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