Miracle ticket thread

[Tao]

in my opinion she gets benched real fast once Amon U gets upgraded (and people also say AW satan is better than Thanatos). Because Thanatos only offers C frame 20% while Amon went from A frame 25% to AoE C frame 25% while offering a light atk down 15% which would help u reach the atk debuff cap against light enemies. Her raging nuke also went from 4.5 - 5.5x w/ 8CD to a 7 - 7.5x w/ 6CD which would allow u to use this more often than usual

Yeah... i dont like Satan/U Amon and Thanatos spot currently , one being the best then later an other and an other ecetera.. Imo Satan is the best hime for dark once she get her awakening form (She's core for me, way more than D ama or Hades and damn i'd like to get my hands on her ^^) Just what i though about thana and U amon fight, thanks for your anwser

[Unregistered]

putting B Frame from D'ama aside, she has BP (albeit with 10 turn cd instead of 8 from Mordred).
still i replaced Mordred with Arthur+PF/VoF (VoF quite rarely)

Oh yes i understand why she's op lol , i assume you have her tho? Really nice man gratz

[Tao]

Tho yes i have to change my statement on her, she's definitevly core and i should stop talking cuz cant edit last post

[BlazeAlter]

Yeah... i dont like Satan/U Amon and Thanatos spot currently , one being the best then later an other and an other ecetera.. Imo Satan is the best hime for dark once she get her awakening form (She's core for me, way more than D ama or Hades and damn i'd like to get my hands on her ^^) Just what i though about thana and U amon fight, thanks for your anwser

Well they give different things, Satan and Thanatos being fast at burst building because of their combo atk rate buff, and Satan also has that overdrive reduction which can save you in your time of need if you want to delay the overdrive for 1 more turn, while Amon is more of a boss killer offering high damage and an extended stun that can help a lot in certain situations like ragnaroks and stuff

In the end I guess its all up to preferences.
Personally I like Amon Unleashed more because of what she offers (right now and in the future) and obvious waifu reasons lol.

[Sora]

Oh yes i understand why she's op lol , i assume you have her tho? Really nice man gratz

Tho yes i have to change my statement on her, she's definitevly core and i should stop talking cuz cant edit last post

Well, that's the actually reason why she is so awesome. You have the 2 most important ex-skills in one SSR Hime. That's why she is a core.
Therefore you don't need to run Mordred+Sniper Short anymore.
However she is limited, sadly.

Now good new for me Pluto and Hades can pair very well together in fact

Yes they pair good but Osiris pairs better with Pluto.
Pluto's skills are:
Abi1 is an dmg AoE that replenishes 3 lego stacks.
Abi2 is a 30% dmg cut (additional 20% Light cut if she has lego stack).
Abi3 is a 20% Atk up (additional 30% Dark dmg if she has lego stack).
Her burst consumes all lego stack and receives a +100% burst dmg multiplier per stack = really awesome!

Osiris offers +15 Burst Guage for your entire party and Satan Awakened also offers a +15 burst gauge increase for herself = making her optimal for a fast burst build.

Oh, so sleeping is like a 1 turn paralyze or something?
(and well.. it is called sleeping so when the mob wakes up of course that will vanish lmao ;p)

Yes, it's pretty useless actually.
Later with Satan Awakened who offers -10% dark ressistance down or Samael (in december?) with -25% dark ressistance down.
There is a higher chance to land Osiris dizziness but Hades also offers Blindness.

Yes that's true, I just really find it normal for Hades to be part of an average dark team build (based from what I've usually seen)

Well, I am still thinking that Hades is a good SSR Hime but she is situational.
They should change her A-frame to C-frame...
Then you would also have the option to run: (if you don't have Pluto)
- Jeanne with BP
- Satan or Samael later
- Thanatos/Amon U
- Osiris
- Hades

edit: Also gonna add one more thing, some Soul EX skills have shit accuracy (like Ambush, even with VoF when fighting neutral elements it has that tendency to miss, meanwhile Amon U's can hit even without VoF on neutral elements except wind disaster)
Now I don't know if trial by jury has bad accuracy (I've experienced it missing from time to time for me during Icarus raid when I used joan), or if I'm just unlucky (even to the point that when joan's team combo atk buff seems to not work for her and only her teammates benefit from it, either that or she just hates me lol), but Hades atk down doesn't miss too much for me tbh (also deals a ton of damage)

Trial by Jury has a better accuracy than Ambush.
Well, with Satan AW maybe Ambush will land easier.

[BlazeAlter]

Yes, it's pretty useless actually.
Later with Satan Awakened who offers -10% dark ressistance down or Samael (in december?) with -25% dark ressistance down.
There is a higher chance to land Osiris dizziness but Hades also offers Blindness.

Hm, I can still see some use for it, but not too much of a use like its broken or anything though.
I find it sad that Samael won't be coming out anytime soon(not that I can actually secure a spot for her, i'd have a pretty difficult time in deciding who i want to remove from my own team but she's still pretty good to have)

Well, I am still thinking that Hades is a good SSR Hime but she is situational.
They should change her A-frame to C-frame...
Then you would also have the option to run:
- Jeanne with BP
- Satan or Samael later
- Thanatos/Amon U
- Osiris
- Hades

I don't think they'll do that. She's already good as she is (I also don't recall any dark SSR hime right now that has a C frame atk debuff)
If they did want to change it, they would've already when they did the upgrades to Amon U

Trial by Jury has a better accuracy than Ambush.
Well, with Satan AW maybe Ambush will land easier.

I only have a few teams that actually use joan as main soul, so I can't really tell for myself. Maybe I'll test it in the future...
Heck even sniper shot sometimes trolls me in some quests

And wait a sec, why would u want to run ambush?
I know satan's A frame is weaker, but lets say you have AW satan, dark amat and upgraded Amon U, you'd already reach the def debuff cap. I'd rather bring something else. maybe something like Provisional forest if you can run a burst build or even desertion is a better option
And even then, if you managed to get thanatos now, and have the same setup (except thanatos in amon U's spot) you'd still be reaching that def debuff cap..

[Sora]

And wait a sec, why would u want to run ambush?
I know satan's A frame is weaker, but lets say you have AW satan, dark amat and upgraded Amon U, you'd already reach the def debuff cap. I'd rather bring something else. maybe something like Provisional forest if you can run a burst build or even desertion is a better option
And even then, if you managed to get thanatos now, and have the same setup (except thanatos in amon U's spot) you'd still be reaching that def debuff cap..

Depends on the situation.
My optimal burst team will be:
- Satan AW --> core
- Osiris --> burst gauge + heal (but seriously she needs an awakening asap)
- Pluto --> 20% Atk up (additional 30% Dark dmg if she has lego stack) and receives a +100% burst dmg multiplier per lego stack = NO, I won't replace her. She is awesome!
- Dark Amaterasu* --> well, BP and sniper shot. (Maybe I will swap her with Chernobog, if I get her, and run with Sniper Shot)
- Shingen with Ambush or Hercules +PF later with his weapon.

Well, which one should I replace?
Furthermore I also could run with -45% def down and seriously, I will do enough damage and could use a different ex-skill.

At the moment I just need Pluto and wait for Satan's awakening because I already have the other Himes.

[Tao]

Yeah everything more clear now , plus i love her skin so much ! the limited part wasnt necessary i already know it and it make me é_è

While thinking about my team comp i though about avoiding the use of a b frame to reach max debuff , as you say too bad hades is not a c frame lol

Tho you have D ama Satan and Osiris ? Can't wait to see your team ocne you'll get pluto and satan aw , will be absolutely monster !

Now on for U amon stuff, yeah she's better than Satan Rn and better than Thana after her change tho i give it to amon too. (And obv for waifu indeed I dont like short haired girl and satan looks pretty but too bad they messed up a bit with her Aw skin imo, could done so much better)

[BlazeAlter]

Depends on the situation.
My optimal burst team will be:
- Satan AW --> core
- Osiris --> burst gauge + heal (but seriously she needs an awakening asap)
- Pluto --> 20% Atk up (additional 30% Dark dmg if she has lego stack) and receives a +100% burst dmg multiplier per lego stack = NO, I won't replace her. She is awesome!
- Dark Amaterasu* --> well, BP and sniper shot. (Maybe I will swap her with Chernobog, if I get her, and run with Sniper Shot)
- Shingen with Ambush or Hercules +PF later with his weapon.

Well, which one should I replace?
Furthermore I also could run with -45% def down and seriously, I will do enough damage and could use a different ex-skill.

At the moment I just need Pluto and wait for Satan's awakening because I already have the other Himes.

None? If we're talking about in the future sense where Amon U already has her upgrade
Right now obviously you wouldn't want to pair Amon and Satan, unless you just want satan's overdrive reduction
I can also see Samael potentially replacing Satan AW simply because she offers a 25% dark RST already (even more so if you plan to use Hercules with her wep, you would be reaching def debuff cap too easy), plus if i recall correctly she also has a combo atk rate down debuff and a nuke like yamaraja's, making her deal more damage than Satan AW (only downside is her dark RST debuff only lasts 120 seconds... is this too much of a problem? probably not too much, unlike baal unleashed's 90 sec 30% thunder RST debuff)
and if you're afraid she might be late to burst then just place her on the very last spot (if on a burst build perhaps, i doubt this too because I think shingen's combo atk buff is good)

I never said anything to suggest replacing pluto btw lol. I agree 100% that she is definitely a core dark hime, not only because of her buffs but you can never go wrong with a damage cut ability
Honestly, if I had that during Rahab ragnarok, I would've always won
edit: Also, where did you see that info about pluto having a 100% burst damage multiplier per lego stack? I don't see anything in JP wiki that confirms that
And I don't doubt your damage, so chill lol

Yeah everything more clear now , plus i love her skin so much ! the limited part wasnt necessary i already know it and it make me é_è

While thinking about my team comp i though about avoiding the use of a b frame to reach max debuff , as you say too bad hades is not a c frame lol

Tho you have D ama Satan and Osiris ? Can't wait to see your team ocne you'll get pluto and satan aw , will be absolutely monster !

Now on for U amon stuff, yeah she's better than Satan Rn and better than Thana after her change tho i give it to amon too. (And obv for waifu indeed I dont like short haired girl and satan looks pretty but too bad they messed up a bit with her Aw skin imo, could done so much better)

Agreed. she looks a bit strange on her awakened form..
Seriously, comparing her art to the other awakened forms they look better than her

[Sora]

None? If we're talking about in the future sense where Amon U already has her upgrade
Right now obviously you wouldn't want to pair Amon and Satan, unless you just want satan's overdrive reduction
I can also see Samael potentially replacing Satan AW simply because she offers a 25% dark RST already (even more so if you plan to use Hercules with her wep, you would be reaching def debuff cap too easy), plus if i recall correctly she also has a combo atk rate down debuff and a nuke like yamaraja's, making her deal more damage than Satan AW (only downside is her dark RST debuff only lasts 120 seconds... is this too much of a problem? probably not too much, unlike baal unleashed's 90 sec 30% thunder RST debuff)
and if you're afraid she might be late to burst then just place her on the very last spot (if on a burst build perhaps, i doubt this too because I think shingen's combo atk buff is good)

I edited some things... didn't mean Amon but Dark Amaterasu*

Well, the another thing is that Chernobog is also pretty awesome.
She offers:
Abi1 30% Rage Gauge reduction + self 30 Burst Gauge
Abi2 Single Target Dmg + Self DATA up
Abi3 that gives her +150% Atk, +100% Def, +50% Crit Rate & Dmg, and 500/T regen, and lasts for as long as you can keep it up.

But she is a little bit tricky and will ruin the burst timing, if you don't master her.

In the future I wouldn't run Amon U unless I have Samael.
However Satan AW is a fast burst Hime, so it depends and her skills have a shorter CD than Samael.

Amon U is good but Satan AW will do more damage.
I would actually replace Dark Amaterasu for a very fast burst build, maybe.

Yeah everything more clear now , plus i love her skin so much ! the limited part wasnt necessary i already know it and it make me é_è

While thinking about my team comp i though about avoiding the use of a b frame to reach max debuff , as you say too bad hades is not a c frame lol

Tho you have D ama Satan and Osiris ? Can't wait to see your team ocne you'll get pluto and satan aw , will be absolutely monster !

Now on for U amon stuff, yeah she's better than Satan Rn and better than Thana after her change tho i give it to amon too. (And obv for waifu indeed I dont like short haired girl and satan looks pretty but too bad they messed up a bit with her Aw skin imo, could done so much better)

Months away... Satan's awakening is months away...
But well, I will try my luck with Pluto next month.
However I will spend my money olny for miracle tickets. I am not a big fan of gambling. ´

Hopefully I have enough luck with jewel gatcha and premium tickets...

Seriously? I think Satan AW looks way better than before. I don't like her current design but her AW form looks pretty
However I am also thinking that Thanatos design looks better than Amon U.