Miracle ticket thread

[Slashley]

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Bear also confirmed that it is a +100% burst increase for each lego stack. So, yes her burst will be amazing
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Although I'm staying far away from the rest of this discussion, I'd just like to point out that this is unlikely to be nearly as good as it sounds.

Now, "100% more" means "double damage." However, +100% burst damage means that you get 100% (one auto-attack) damage added to your Burst. SSRs already have 500%, so for actually double damage, you need five stacks. This might not be too problematic, but keep in mind that currently our +burst is capped at +300% and later at +500%. Also note that Hime like that are usually incompatible with Provisional Forest builds as Shingen puts you to +burst cap anyway. Furthermore, burst damage cap is a thing, and Hime with +burst damage will just hit this damage cap. Maybe. I'm not sure if that's going to happen without double P2W Eidolon...

Anyway, I haven't looked up if Pluto works like this or not, but you may want to tone your expectations down a bit.

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She also offers 50% damage increase for your entire dark team (20% A-frame attack up and with lego stack 30% dark attack up)

Because these are just added to already existing modifiers, you're NOT going to get +50% damage. More like 5-10% from the Atk up and ~15% from the elem+. Less if you have a P2W Eidolon running.

[Sora]

Although I'm staying far away from the rest of this discussion, I'd just like to point out that this is unlikely to be nearly as good as it sounds.

Now, "100% more" means "double damage." However, +100% burst damage means that you get 100% (one auto-attack) damage added to your Burst. SSRs already have 500%, so for actually double damage, you need five stacks. This might not be too problematic, but keep in mind that currently our +burst is capped at +300% and later at +500%. Also note that Hime like that are usually incompatible with Provisional Forest builds as Shingen puts you to +burst cap anyway. Furthermore, burst damage cap is a thing, and Hime with +burst damage will just hit this damage cap. Maybe. I'm not sure if that's going to happen without double P2W Eidolon...

Anyway, I haven't looked up if Pluto works like this or not, but you may want to tone your expectations down a bit.Because these are just added to already existing modifiers, you're NOT going to get +50% damage. More like 5-10% from the Atk up and ~15% from the elem+. Less if you have a P2W Eidolon running.

Nobody said it will be a double damage.
However her 50% damage increase for your entire dark team + damage cut, that's already good enough to bench her in a burst/damage build rather than Hades.
And I know that isn't a double damage but 20-25% are also good and I don't know if I will ever get a P2W Eidolong, but who cares?
P2W Eidolon will make your life easier but you can also do without them. Don't know if this also applies for tower.

Wait. Shingen offers +200% burst damage and Pluto offers for her self for each lego stack +100% burst damage. Therefore she would just need 3 lego stack to reach 500%, or not?

[Slashley]

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Wait. Shingen offers +200% burst damage and Pluto offers for her self for each lego stack +100% burst damage. Therefore she would just need 3 lego stack to reach 500%, or not?

If I recall right, the patch which increases the +burst cap also buffs Provisional Forest. Maybe? Can't be arsed to check right now.
Also, relic weapons going to be a thing. Shingen's HP weapon will take you all the way to +500% burst I think? Maybe. I can't be arsed to check right now. But, I can tell you that you usually don't want to use HP relic weapons, the elemental damage boost is just too damn good to pass up on, so maybe this is a moot point?

[BlazeAlter]

About Pluto:


Well, I just wanted to say that she is really awesome and I don't think I will replace her until DMM release a better SSR Dark Hime than her. But then she would get a Awakening later xP
Here 100% burst increase: (google translator translate 100% to 1%... lol)
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Bear also confirmed that it is a +100% burst increase for each lego stack. So, yes her burst will be amazing
Furthermore she is not only a tank also a damage dealer. She also offers 50% damage increase for your entire dark team (20% A-frame attack up and with lego stack 30% dark attack up)
I also love Pluto's design. I am not really a fan for Lolis but I love her character design.

yeah I know what she does lol. I've done my own digging into the jp wiki months ago and from time to time
and no wonder I was confused. when I did that google translate thing myself i only saw a 1% thing then a 300% lol. google translate just being google translate I guess...
I agree that she is quite cute though lol.

Nobody said it will be a double damage.
However her 50% damage increase (20% A-frame attack up and 30% dark attack up)for your entire dark team + damage cut, that's already good enough to bench her in a burst/damage build.

Wait. Shingen offers +200% burst damage and Pluto offers for her self for each lego stack +100% burst damage. Therefore she would just need 3 lego stack to reach 500%, or not?

Hmm I'm thinking of a situation where you won't be able to stack as much legos for pluto since of course, depending on the course of the battle you would have to use her damage cut for an overdrive and her buffs when u have ur burst ready, which could potentially leave you with just 1 lego stack (unless of course you can reach that 6CD before bursting or something cuz some fights are long and some fights are short, so I guess that could affect how many legos you can stack before you can do a full burst)
Well all we can do is speculate right now, since she's not here yet... would be best to try her out for ourselves before we say anything with 100% confirmation

[Sora]

If I recall right, the patch which increases the +burst cap also buffs Provisional Forest. Maybe? Can't be arsed to check right now.
Also, relic weapons going to be a thing. Shingen's HP weapon will take you all the way to +500% burst I think? Maybe. I can't be arsed to check right now. But, I can tell you that you usually don't want to use HP relic weapons, the elemental damage boost is just too damn good to pass up on, so maybe this is a moot point?

Well I won't use Shingen's HP relic weapon.
Hercules would be the better choice to reach def cap with less debuffers and I could run more damage dealer or rather switch Dark Amaterasu with another SSR dark Hime.
Therefore Pluto isn't a bad option. PF+3 lego stack = 500% will be enough.

yeah I know what she does lol. I've done my own digging into the jp wiki months ago and from time to time
and no wonder I was confused. when I did that google translate thing myself i only saw a 1% thing then a 300% lol. google translate just being google translate I guess...
I agree that she is quite cute though lol.

Yes, it's google's fault

Hmm I'm thinking of a situation where you won't be able to stack as much legos for pluto since of course, depending on the course of the battle you would have to use her damage cut for an overdrive and her buffs when u have ur burst ready, which could potentially leave you with just 1 lego stack (unless of course you can reach that 6CD before bursting or something cuz some fights are long and some fights are short, so I guess that could affect how many legos you can stack before you can do a full burst)
Well all we can do is speculate right now, since she's not here yet... would be best to try her out for ourselves before we say anything with 100% confirmation

Well, even if you have just one lego stack + PF you will reach 300%, that's also not bad.
And yes, you are right we should wait and see if Pluto is good enough to use a miracle ticket for her or not.

[BlazeAlter]

Yes, it's google's fault

Well, even if you have just one lego stack + PF you will reach 300%, that's also not bad.
And yes, you are right we should wait and see if Pluto is good enough to use a miracle ticket for her or not.

you don't know how many headaches I've gone through in different games while enduring google translate's butchered sentences...
She is worth the miracle ticket lol, no mistake about that. The only thing we can't confirm for ourselves is the lego stack burst modifier thingy

[Sora]

you don't know how many headaches I've gone through in different games while enduring google translate's butchered sentences...
She is worth the miracle ticket lol, no mistake about that. The only thing we can't confirm for ourselves is the lego stack burst modifier thingy

Haha, poor you!

Well, I will get her because of damage cut down and she is awesome for light enimies like Barong
+ the party damage increase is also nice.
+ burst increase for herself
+ I love her design, seriously

So for me she will be in my main team, no matter what.

[BlazeAlter]

Haha, poor you!

Well, I will get her because of damage cut down and she is awesome for light enimies like Barong
+ the party damage increase is also nice.
+ burst increase for herself
+ I love her design, seriously

So for me she will be in my main team, no matter what.

I can agree that her damage cut and buffs are her main attractions cuz you can never go wrong with those in any fight, and while not a fan of lolis myself, she's probably one of the cutest dark himes around
I actually would love to know as well how often she does double/triple atks based on how many lego stacks she has (her passive i mean), cuz if she only has 3 stacks on average and she does a lot of successive atks often, she's gonna be pretty useful in any situation and anyone would easily deal a lot of damage with her.

[Cobblemaniac]

I can agree that her damage cut and buffs are her main attractions cuz you can never go wrong with those in any fight, and while not a fan of lolis myself, she's probably one of the cutest dark himes around
I actually would love to know as well how often she does double/triple atks based on how many lego stacks she has (her passive i mean), cuz if she only has 3 stacks on average and she does a lot of successive atks often, she's gonna be pretty useful in any situation and anyone would easily deal a lot of damage with her.

If she does keep her lego stacks stage after stage, I could see her pretty much acting like SSR Cybele in something like AQ4/5. That is, provided 1. she doesn't have a cap on lego and 2. her lego stacks actually give enough boost to DATA to actually matter. Our resident (?) DMM player Bear might be able to help us out here

[BlazeAlter]

If she does keep her lego stacks stage after stage, I could see her pretty much acting like SSR Cybele in something like AQ4/5. That is, provided 1. she doesn't have a cap on lego and 2. her lego stacks actually give enough boost to DATA to actually matter. Our resident (?) DMM player Bear might be able to help us out here

If that's true, then damn, that's gonna feel good in long term battles.