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    Quote Originally Posted by didimelo100 View Post
    The problem is that my Water Weapon grid is not completed unlike My Light Grid and my Wind team is a complete mess. Eidolon is not a problem for Water and Light for me. So, what do you guys think i can do? Any help is appreciated.
    It's well known that water SSR himes are pretty much OP compared to just about every other element, but the thing is you don't have any of those SSR water himes. So even if you used the ticket on Cthulu, she would be better off used in your light team than your water team of SR himes, in the same way you're using Sol in the water team example, who I assume you have already.

    Light team with Cthulhu
    Cthulhu Atk -15% A-Frame / Def -20% C-Frame
    Diana = Def -15% A-Frame
    Sol = Atk -20% C-Frame
    Kamihime Only Total = Atk -35% / Def -35%

    Mordred without Sniper Shot = Atk -45% / Def -45%
    Mordred with Sniper Shot = Atk -55% / Def -55%
    Joan without Sniper Shot = Atk -40% / Def -35%
    Joan + Sniper Shot = Atk -60% / Def -55%

    You can use Joan for content you can handle without Black Prop but Mordred with Sniper Shot will most likely be the main set up for things like Ragnarok cause of Black Prop. With this set up, you will always have a free hime slot available, preferably for Raphael if you ever get her or Belebog for additional heal and ailment recovery, in which you would have all the major necessities you need in this game. There's also the option of using Gawain+Sniper and Belebog for -55% Atk and -60% Def as well, in which you can replace Diana with whomever.

    Since wind is your 2nd strongest team, you won't be needing to use your light team+Cthulu on a thunder event, which makes even less to worry about Cthulu dying.

    If you had any other SSR water himes like, even just Ryu Oh, this would be a lot different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MooShoes View Post
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    Kamihime: Gaia, Cu Chulainn and 3 more SRs, overall my strongest team atm.
    Eidolon: Behemoth, only 30% damage...--
    You shouldn't care about Fenrir. Or Behemoth, but for some content, Behemoth is really good due to the on-use. Also, you shouldn't just gloss over SRs like that. It's a whole different story if you have Oberon or not, or if your Dark team has Nyarl and Lu Bu or not.

    Anyway, the way I see it, you have a few options available for you... though, I'm mostly just reading out from Sanahtlig's guide honestly:
    Wind: By far the best Miracle Ticket pick for Wind is Gaia, who you already have. Thus you're in a good spot for Wind already, even more so with Chulainn who is decent. If you have Oberon, you're all set for now. You can not commit to your Wind team and not lose out on anything, since the other key Wind SSRs aren't out yet. Or you can pick one of the weaker SSRs who are going to be replaced like Titania or Azazel. I don't think I'd recommend that. Anyway, Sol and Cthulhu are mentioned in Sanahtlig's guide for off-element picks.

    Dark: Osiris is good, and that means it's possible for you to head in this direction as well. Both SSR Amon and Satan are good. You only need one as they largely fulfill the same role - SSR Amon is stronger for now but Satan's Awakening will make her stronger later. Also, Sol would work too, at least, you should be really durable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    Or you can pick one of the weaker SSRs who are going to be replaced like Titania or Azazel. I don't think I'd recommend that. Anyway, Sol and Cthulhu are mentioned in Sanahtlig's guide for off-element picks.
    Don't be writing off Titania. After awakening every 4 turns she gets 45 burst gauge, gives one ally 30 burst gauge and gives another ally 50% double attack / 50% triple attack for 3 turns (so another 45 burst gauge for them). You will be a bursting machine with her. And the extra combo attacks, 60% att, and 75% ability damage from her buffs will add truckloads of damage also. She is Wind's secret firepower trump card.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidoru View Post
    It's well known that water SSR himes are pretty much OP compared to just about every other element, but the thing is you don't have any of those SSR water himes. So even if you used the ticket on Cthulu, she would be better off used in your light team than your water team of SR himes, in the same way you're using Sol in the water team example, who I assume you have already.

    You can use Joan for content you can handle without Black Prop but Mordred with Sniper Shot will most likely be the main set up for things like Ragnarok cause of Black Prop. With this set up, you will always have a free hime slot available, preferably for Raphael if you ever get her or Belebog for additional heal and ailment recovery, in which you would have all the major necessities you need in this game. There's also the option of using Gawain+Sniper and Belebog for -55% Atk and -60% Def as well, in which you can replace Diana with whomever.

    Since wind is your 2nd strongest team, you won't be needing to use your light team+Cthulu on a thunder event, which makes even less to worry about Cthulu dying.

    If you had any other SSR water himes like, even just Ryu Oh, this would be a lot different.
    I didn't realized that i could use Cthulhu in my light team (dumb me), but these examples you said made a lot of difference . My water team have only SRs while my light team has Michael too, so this is another addition to my light team. You helped a lot, many thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohjel View Post
    Don't be writing off Titania. After awakening every 4 turns she gets 45 burst gauge, gives one ally 30 burst gauge and gives another ally 50% double attack / 50% triple attack for 3 turns (so another 45 burst gauge for them). You will be a bursting machine with her. And the extra combo attacks, 60% att, and 75% ability damage from her buffs will add truckloads of damage also. She is Wind's secret firepower trump card.
    Titania will synergize well with SSR Cybele and Shingen. It's an alternative build for Wind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    Wind: By far the best Miracle Ticket pick for Wind is Gaia,[...].
    I was going to ask which hime should I pull to make my wind team better, thanks mang.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    You shouldn't care about Fenrir. Or Behemoth, but for some content, Behemoth is really good due to the on-use. Also, you shouldn't just gloss over SRs like that. It's a whole different story if you have Oberon or not, or if your Dark team has Nyarl and Lu Bu or not.

    Anyway, the way I see it, you have a few options available for you... though, I'm mostly just reading out from Sanahtlig's guide honestly:
    Wind: By far the best Miracle Ticket pick for Wind is Gaia, who you already have. Thus you're in a good spot for Wind already, even more so with Chulainn who is decent. If you have Oberon, you're all set for now. You can not commit to your Wind team and not lose out on anything, since the other key Wind SSRs aren't out yet. Or you can pick one of the weaker SSRs who are going to be replaced like Titania or Azazel. I don't think I'd recommend that. Anyway, Sol and Cthulhu are mentioned in Sanahtlig's guide for off-element picks.

    Dark: Osiris is good, and that means it's possible for you to head in this direction as well. Both SSR Amon and Satan are good. You only need one as they largely fulfill the same role - SSR Amon is stronger for now but Satan's Awakening will make her stronger later. Also, Sol would work too, at least, you should be really durable.
    Thanks for the quick response. I do have Oberon, Nyarlanthothep and Lu Bu but without a good Dark eidolon i think i will put my Dark team on hold.
    Cthulhu seems like an upgrade to Oberon but Sol actually fills a gap on my Wind team but can perhaps be replaced with a healer Soul. They both get use of Behemoth which is a small bonus.

    Quote Originally Posted by ohjel View Post
    Don't be writing off Titania. After awakening every 4 turns she gets 45 burst gauge, gives one ally 30 burst gauge and gives another ally 50% double attack / 50% triple attack for 3 turns (so another 45 burst gauge for them). You will be a bursting machine with her. And the extra combo attacks, 60% att, and 75% ability damage from her buffs will add truckloads of damage also. She is Wind's secret firepower trump card.
    Quote Originally Posted by sanahtlig View Post
    Titania will synergize well with SSR Cybele and Shingen. It's an alternative build for Wind.
    Titania seems like an amazing single target Buffer, should work well with Cu Chulainn. Would a team made of Andromeda, Gaia, Cu Chulainn, Titania and Oberon be quite decent?

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    I doubt that bringing Titania instead of Cybele would be particularly amazing... in theory, Andromeda can bring Sniper Shot, but then you don't have Black Propaganda.

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    The offensive Wind build consists of Shingen, Titania, SSR Cybele, Oberon, Gaia. It's focused on frequent powered-up Full Bursts and a heavily buffed Cybele who rips apart enemies with normal attacks. Titania and SSR Cybele aid in Burst generation (and are at the top of the lineup), Shingen buffs the Bursts, Oberon provides class A debuffs, Cybele provides the class B debuff, and Gaia heals and provides protection against overdrives. The build needs all 5 members to work optimally, though you can sub Hastur for Oberon if you can run ATK down on Shingen, or are willing to sacrifice the ATK debuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanahtlig View Post
    -- It's focused on frequent powered-up Full Bursts and a heavily buffed Cybele who rips apart enemies with normal attacks.--
    Yes, but only SSR Cybele. The problem with Titania is she's bad by herself - she needs a true powerhouse next to her in order to be useful.

    At the moment, running Titania over SR Cybele seems... odd to me. I'd assume that even buffing Chu you'll deal less damage than by using SR Cybele (when bringing Black Propaganda, which you need to do most of the time).

    In the long run, sure. But we're talking about picking a Hime whose only job is to chill in the backrow for the next... five months until you can get SSR Cybele? For now, he can pick something else and grab Titania on the second Miracle ticket if that's the build he wants to go for.

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