Miracle ticket thread

[MagicSpice]

I really don't spend more than that as well, just the garanteed SSR stuff and miracle tickets and some fragment gachas once in a while. I just haven't got that many dupes so far. I have only 1 kami weapon that i can FLB, 2 with 2* and a couple more with 1*.

well to put things in perspective (and if i got the numbers right), there's this amount of each kami rarity that's ever been on nutaku so far, including limited girls:

66 R
104 SR
76 SSR

and out of that I currently have:

59 R
83 SR
35 SSR

so my numbers would look like this on kami obtained:

R kami: 59/66 = 89.39%
SR kami: 83/104 = 79.81%
SSR kami: 35/76 = 46.05%

total kami: 177/246 = 71.95%

that's a lot of kamihime to have gotten from this game... and there's more to come soon. what would be your numbers compared to that?

Not even gonna get into eidolons either cause i've had them all at least once except the dark, water, and thunder kaisers, and none of the 100% eidolons (including event ones, SR and R ones, and Bugbear). And weapons, not bothered to try and figure that out...

[MooShoes]

This is getting a bit offtopic but is perhaps of interest for some people so i will continue until someone kicks us out of the thread.

Currently i have these himes:

63 R
87 SR
43 SSR

As for eidolons, i really don't usually get many of them. I still don't have a single Sleipnir or Jabberwock. I have 3 of the Kaisers, water, wind and light.
For example, on the pulls for thunder Aphro, i spent almost 50k jewels, over 60 premium tickets, the miracle ticket gacha pulls and 1 fragment gacha. From all of these in only got a single SSR eidolon, that being Kirin.

[MagicSpice]

This is getting a bit offtopic but is perhaps of interest for some people so i will continue until someone kicks us out of the thread.

it's not really off topic since knowing what kami and even eidolons in some cases (like the 100% ones and maybe kaisers) would help determine where to direct that miracle ticket.

for instance, why use it on a wind team with 1 SSR, 3 SR, and a Amaltheia, when you have a fire team with a Belial, 3 SSR, and no SR?

[Unregistered]

I need some help from you guys to decide which hime should i mtix.

Should i get Asherah when my water team already decimates pretty much anything?
Should i pick Aether or Titania to complement my wind team?
Should i bother with Mammon when i am planning to swap D'Artagnan for Hercules or Shingen?

Judging from your himes, I'd say Titania or Baal U, although Baal slightly preferred since thunder is the next tower. Asherah is a fine pick to help water do damage, but with fire tower over, it's hardly a needed pick.

[MooShoes]

it's not really off topic since knowing what kami and even eidolons in some cases (like the 100% ones and maybe kaisers) would help determine where to direct that miracle ticket.

for instance, why use it on a wind team with 1 SSR, 3 SR, and a Amaltheia, when you have a fire team with a Belial, 3 SSR, and no SR?

I meant the whole counting himes and eidolon thing.

Judging from your himes, I'd say Titania or Baal U, although Baal slightly preferred since thunder is the next tower. Asherah is a fine pick to help water do damage, but with fire tower over, it's hardly a needed pick.

This is a good point as my thunder team was the weakest of them all. I was checking Baal and Thor and both seem like a good pick.

[Unregistered]

I was thinking to use my MT to get Svarog then pulled her so I don't have any SSR thunder, who should I pick?

[Unregistered]

I was thinking to use my MT to get Svarog then pulled her so I don't have any SSR thunder, who should I pick?

I wouldn't use an mtix to start a new team, it takes way too much for that. If you have nothing, just focus on an element you already do something in. So if you just got Svarog, pick up Uriel.

[AznSamsung]

So its time to see wat i should i get ....

Here's my Kamihime list to help determine wat you can suggest ... yes i know its a lot of sr hime ...

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Fire (26):
(SSR) Awakening Svarog, Awakening Ares, Amaterasu (1st Miracle Ticket), Acala, Yamaraja, Mars (2nd Miracle Ticket)
(SR) Kagutsuchi, Amon, Agni, Motu, Raguel, Nataku, Brynhildr, Ceridwen, [Princess of HellFlame] Eligos, Kishar, [Swirl Sakura] Konohana-Sakuya, Fortuna
(R) Taikoubou, Baphomet, Nergal, Dazbog, Hestia, Ignis, Vulcan, Taikoubou, Konohana-Sakuya

Water (23):
(SSR) Nike, Aphrodite, Asherah, [Unleashed] Nike, [Snow Angel] Raphael
(SR) Nike, Cupid, Triton, Belphegor, Nodens, Gabriel, Atalanta, Enkidu, Anahit, Kikuri-Hime
(R) Ganges, Oto-Hime, Circe, Dagon, Apsara, Kushinada, Rushalka, Undine, Abzu, Sequana

Wind (25):
(SSR) Odin, Arianrod, [Unleashed] Cybele
(SR) Hermes, Heimdallr, Ithaqua, Guan Yu (Aisha), Cronus, Cybele, Maeve, Freja, Oberon, Krampus, Iblis, [Songstress of Flowers] Ramiel
(R) Caspiel, Puck, Boreas, Zephyrus, Reginleiv, Scathach, Vulthoom, Charis, Anat, [Song of Spring Wind] Orphus

Thunder (20):
(SSR) Jupitor, Tyr, Thor, Brahma, Marduk
(SR) Ramiel, Psyche, Hermod, Baal, Tezcatlipoca, Perkunas, [Thunder Spirit] Nyarlathotep, Noel
(R) Verethragna, Skuld, Perun, Indra, Cherubim, Tlaloc, Rhea

Dark (23):
(SSR) Satan, [Unleashed] Amon
(SR) Nyarlathotep, Bastet, Lu-Bu (Ren), Tsukuyomi, Balor, Pale Rider, Beelzebub, Meretseger, Pharol, Rangda, Jun'iku [Keifa], Ereshkigal
(R) Apep, Neith, Astaroth, Mephistopheles, Chaos, Naberius, Mokosh, Ceres, [Black Lily Princess] Kushinada

Light (21):
(SSR) Raphael, [Moonlight Maiden] Tsukuyomi, Atum, Sol (3rd Miracle Ticket)
(SR) Uzume, Belobog, Artemis, [Light Speed] Hermod, Uranus, Baldr, Diana, Anteros, Djehuti, Demeter
(R) [Guardian of Light] Perun, Inanna, Dike, Aurora, Orpheus, Urania, Daphne, Kamadeva

TOTAL HIME: 140

p.s light nike wont show in filter ... no idea y but i have her too

[Cobblemaniac]

So its time to see wat i should i get ....

Here's my Kamihime list to help determine wat you can suggest ... yes i know its a lot of sr hime ...

->Open Spoiler<-

Fire (26):
(SSR) Awakening Svarog, Awakening Ares, Amaterasu (1st Miracle Ticket), Acala, Yamaraja, Mars (2nd Miracle Ticket)
(SR) Kagutsuchi, Amon, Agni, Motu, Raguel, Nataku, Brynhildr, Ceridwen, [Princess of HellFlame] Eligos, Kishar, [Swirl Sakura] Konohana-Sakuya, Fortuna
(R) Taikoubou, Baphomet, Nergal, Dazbog, Hestia, Ignis, Vulcan, Taikoubou, Konohana-Sakuya

Water (23):
(SSR) Nike, Aphrodite, Asherah, [Unleashed] Nike, [Snow Angel] Raphael
(SR) Nike, Cupid, Triton, Belphegor, Nodens, Gabriel, Atalanta, Enkidu, Anahit, Kikuri-Hime
(R) Ganges, Oto-Hime, Circe, Dagon, Apsara, Kushinada, Rushalka, Undine, Abzu, Sequana

Wind (25):
(SSR) Odin, Arianrod, [Unleashed] Cybele
(SR) Hermes, Heimdallr, Ithaqua, Guan Yu (Aisha), Cronus, Cybele, Maeve, Freja, Oberon, Krampus, Iblis, [Songstress of Flowers] Ramiel
(R) Caspiel, Puck, Boreas, Zephyrus, Reginleiv, Scathach, Vulthoom, Charis, Anat, [Song of Spring Wind] Orphus

Thunder (20):
(SSR) Jupitor, Tyr, Thor, Brahma, Marduk
(SR) Ramiel, Psyche, Hermod, Baal, Tezcatlipoca, Perkunas, [Thunder Spirit] Nyarlathotep, Noel
(R) Verethragna, Skuld, Perun, Indra, Cherubim, Tlaloc, Rhea

Dark (23):
(SSR) Satan, [Unleashed] Amon
(SR) Nyarlathotep, Bastet, Lu-Bu (Ren), Tsukuyomi, Balor, Pale Rider, Beelzebub, Meretseger, Pharol, Rangda, Jun'iku [Keifa], Ereshkigal
(R) Apep, Neith, Astaroth, Mephistopheles, Chaos, Naberius, Mokosh, Ceres, [Black Lily Princess] Kushinada

Light (21):
(SSR) Raphael, [Moonlight Maiden] Tsukuyomi, Atum, Sol (3rd Miracle Ticket)
(SR) Uzume, Belobog, Artemis, [Light Speed] Hermod, Uranus, Baldr, Diana, Anteros, Djehuti, Demeter
(R) [Guardian of Light] Perun, Inanna, Dike, Aurora, Orpheus, Urania, Daphne, Kamadeva

TOTAL HIME: 140

p.s light nike wont show in filter ... no idea y but i have her too

Michael is a very strong contender if you do intend to light baka.

Otherwise, as a fire main you're better off just mtixing Uriel for the short term profit.

[Slashley]

Spoilering this since it got lenghty.

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Alright then, using bold to show the bottleneck, worst case scenario your team without PF and with Saraswati:
6/7/6/5/6... actually, since turn 6 brings you Saraswati's +Burst back up, let's rather use:
6/6/6/5/6
Worst case scenario your team without PF and without Saraswati, moving Atalanta to second slot:
6/8/8/7/6

Yeah, alright. That's two turns faster, in the very worst case scenario. Which is 25% faster.

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How about average numbers, then? With Herc running 19.91 Burst/t for example for the first five turns and Saraswati combo targets running 18.4 Burst/t for three turns. Brackets that don't include a turn means that that is the amount of Burst they gained in that amount of turns, and {} used to indicate how close some Hime was to reach a milestone in some specified amount of turns.

Average result, without PF, with Saraswati:
5 (129.55)/4 (91.6)/3 (80.2)/5/6 {57 Burst in five turns on average}
Oomph. The last guy only needs to combo once to make it in five turns, or take quite literally any damage. Let's move the +Burst to the last slot to see if that helps:
5 (129.55)/4 (91.6)/6 {78 Burst in five turns}/5/4
Shit. Didn't help. Again, would be fixed with basically any amount of damage taken.
Average result, without PF, without Saraswati, Atalanta second slot:
5 (129.55 Burst)/7 (97)/8 {68.4 Burst in 7 turns}/7/6
Oomph again. This time the third slot is on the very cusp of hitting seven turns.

Again, yeah alright, that's the same result. Saraswati is still two turns faster, with both teams being quite likely to hit one turn faster most of the time from taken damage. So that's 25%-29% faster.

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What about with PF, then? This requires Herc to reach 150 burst.

Average result, with PF, with Saraswati:
7 (182.35){140.95 in six turns, so not even close}/4 (91.6)/4 (91.6)/5/6
Oh dear. This is where we see the problem - Herc is bottlenecking the team, rendering Saraswati pointless. Let's see if we can fix that by using turn 6 Saraswati +Burst on Herc, maybe Herc doesn't need to wait for his Relic ability to come off CD?
6 (165.95)/4 (91.6)/6 {78 Burst in five turns}/5/6
Saved!
Average result, with PF, without Saraswati:
7 (182.35)/7 (97)/8 {68.4 Burst in 7 turns}/7/6

Again, two turns faster. Although the non-Saraswati team is fairly likely to do it one turn faster since third slot just needs to take any damage once. 13-25% faster.

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And finally, worst case scenario, with PF.

Worst case scenario with PF and with Saraswati:
7 {130 in six turns thanks to Saraswati}/6/6/5/6
Worst case scenario with PF and without Saraswati, moving Atalanta to second slot:
8 {145 in seven turns}/8/8/7/6

Again, yes, Saraswati team is faster. By 13%.

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There was a lot of stuff there, so I could've fucked up a lot of shit
I don't have the time to double-check it all. If anyone has any complaints, do point them out.

I totally didn't forget all about this until now. I've just been uh, busy. Yeah.

Anyway.
I made a calc to double-check this, and much to my surprise, I didn't fuck up on my initial maths. The difference is always +1 in my calc, but that's because what I've listed here before was when your burst was ready (at the end of turn x) whileas the calc says on which turn itself you can Full Burst.

On a side note, while I was at it, I coded up support for Vohu and Shingen's upcoming EX skill. Turns out Shingen+Vohu+Saraswati is PRETTY DAMN FAST.