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    Quote Originally Posted by Slimy View Post
    Currently Snow Rapheal looks like a good choice to round out water but since I already have Belephegor, I wasn't sure whether I should start investing in a secondary team eg Light Tsukuyomi for light or focus on water.
    Personally I'd go with Light Tsukuyomi, since she'll have a way bigger impact on your Light team than Snow Raphael will have on your Water team. With that you'd have a very nice control setup (Tsukuyomi, Sol, Raphael, Diana) that doesn't really require any upgrades until SSR Artemis comes. That recommendation is coming from a Light main though, so possibly biased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blubbergott View Post
    Personally I'd go with Light Tsukuyomi, since she'll have a way bigger impact on your Light team than Snow Raphael will have on your Water team. With that you'd have a very nice control setup (Tsukuyomi, Sol, Raphael, Diana) that doesn't really require any upgrades until SSR Artemis comes. That recommendation is coming from a Light main though, so possibly biased.
    Additional stuff to add I guess. Honestly if you have enough jewels, I'd wait for another 3k roll if it fits nicely within the time frame of 2 weeks.

    Snow Raphael not impacting the team... is not true IMO. Providing B frame debuff relieves you of the necessity of running D'Art without sacrificing 50% def break. While Belphegor does cover that pretty well, I'd take an extra orb removal gladly, as well as 2 turn 30% dmg mitigation, which just so happens to stack with Joan. Defensively, Snow Raphael kind of trashes Belphegor. That does give you the issue of damage, but the light and water teams look very defensive already anyway. I'm not discounting L Tsuku tho, but tbh I would be as equally torn in this situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac View Post
    Additional stuff to add I guess. Honestly if you have enough jewels, I'd wait for another 3k roll if it fits nicely within the time frame of 2 weeks.

    Snow Raphael not impacting the team... is not true IMO. Providing B frame debuff relieves you of the necessity of running D'Art without sacrificing 50% def break. While Belphegor does cover that pretty well, I'd take an extra orb removal gladly, as well as 2 turn 30% dmg mitigation, which just so happens to stack with Joan. Defensively, Snow Raphael kind of trashes Belphegor. That does give you the issue of damage, but the light and water teams look very defensive already anyway. I'm not discounting L Tsuku tho, but tbh I would be as equally torn in this situation.
    He never said she would have no impact. But Light Tsuku will have a bigger impact for sure.

    He wouldn't free his ex slot since he already has Belphegor, and while Raph would be an upgrade (especially because of her "oh crap" orb remover), Belphegor is a bit broken for a SR with her -30% rage bar, allowing you to bypass rage phase easily even if you're a bit low on damage.

    Tsuku on the other hand is required for light to do damage atm. You need her, period.

    @Slimy : i second Blubbergott. With Tsukuyomi, your light team alone will be able to clear the content until the end of the year (and tower event), assuming you lvlup your weapons grid completely, + accessory (4 light event coming in the next 2 month btw)
    In the meantime you'll be able to gently lvlup your other teams., without needing to rush

    Edit : Cobblemaniac's advice is still good to take though. You can wait a bit too see what you get with your next gacha pull before the ticket fades away. Or you can save your jewels for more important release. It's up to you
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    Well, RNG is a cruel mistress. I failed to pull SSR Cybele as expected (I had roughly ~13% chance of her), but instead, I got three core SSR Hime. That's... new. I mean, I've pulled tons of just-barely-off-core Hime before, but very few actual cores (I think just Gaia and Raiko, questionably Thor and Ryu-Oh).

    So, with Hastur, Amaterasu and Brahma joining my team, I am again so damn confused on what to get. So, typing this out to sort out my thoughts on what to do. Oh, using jargon Third Miracle Ticket (TMT) and Second Miracle Ticket (SMT) a lot here.

    My options, roughly in order of my preference:


    Wind
    Notable Hime: Awakened Gaia, Titania, Hastur, Odin, Cybele, Zephyrus
    Grid: 135%

    I failed to get SSR Cybele, but thanks to pulling Hastur, my Wind is in a really, really good spot. As such, I'm just TMT away from having an extremely good Wind team. Sadly, since that needs to be SSR Cybele, I won't be able to get Seth for a long, long time.

    So the problem is - what to do with this SMT? To have a full, PROPER team I'd need to get Cu Chulainn. Her guaranteed-triple skill is an extremely big asset for Burst Wind teams, and outclasses my unreliable, crappy Odin by far. However, using SMT on Cu Chulainn feels so... wrong. She's very one-dimensional and literally just there for her burst generation.

    There's also the problem that I don't really like Wind's playstyle. Titania in particular requires so much babying it's annoying. As such, despite my Wind team being clearly the strongest, I doubt I'll commit my SMT to it. Odin is a crappy version of Cu Chulainn and kinda fulfills the same role, so my Wind team should be extremely good even if I only spend my TMT on it.


    Fire
    Notable Hime: Amaterasu, Ares, Acala, Yamaraja, Brynhildr
    Grid: 122%

    Ah, christ. After pulling Amaterasu, who truly is unbelievably good, I guess Fire is back into the Miracle Ticket fight. I am, however, still lacking THREE cores; Svarog, Uriel and Mars. Also, awakening my Ares is a possibility. Since I have six Eyes, that wouldn't stop me from getting Svarog either.

    Svarog is just outright amazing, and I could Awaken her right away.
    Since we supposedly have the buffed version of Uriel, she's great even before her Awakening.
    Mars has her -15% Fire resistance, and Dispel.

    If I'll go for Fire, I'm leaning towards Mars. This would mean that my teams would be:
    SMT: Awakened Ares, Yamaraja/Brynhildr, Mars, Amaterasu
    TMT: Awakened Ares, Awakened Svarog, Mars, Amaterasu
    FMT: Ideal combination - depending on content - of Awakened Ares/Svarog/Uriel/Acala, Mars, Amaterasu. Well, Acala Awakening isn't quite in time for FMT I think, but still. My Fire team would be utterly ridiculous. As such, going for Fire on SMT would lock me into Fire route.

    Water
    Notable Hime: Ryu-Oh, Poseidon, Shiva, Triton, Belphegor
    Grid: 150%

    I really, really like Water. It's just plain fun.
    The problem? I have zero cores. I'm lacking SSR Nike, Water Raphael AND Cthulhu. Originally, the plan was to get Cthulhu. But is that worth it, since the ideal combination of Water SSRs would take me all the time until FMT to reach...?

    I... don't think so. But on the other hand, taking Cthulhu here would still leave my options open. As in, if I pick Water with SMT, I can decide which element to main with TMT, as Wind/Water/Thunder would all have amazing options.

    Thunder
    Notable Hime: Awakened Thor, Raiko, Brahma, Astraea, Pumpkin Artemis
    Grid: 143%

    Thunder has issues... but the good news is, since I have Brahma, I basically have all decent Thunder SSRs available in SMT. Thunder TMT is reserved for Mammon, clearly. So nothing here for now, will consider you during TMT, Mammon.



    So I guess ultimately, SMT for me is deciding whether to go Fire or Wind/Thunder/Water...
    What is a poor Slashley to do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    Well, RNG is a cruel mistress. I failed to pull SSR Cybele as expected (I had roughly ~13% chance of her), but instead, I got three core SSR Hime. That's... new. I mean, I've pulled tons of just-barely-off-core Hime before, but very few actual cores (I think just Gaia and Raiko, questionably Thor and Ryu-Oh).

    So, with Hastur, Amaterasu and Brahma joining my team, I am again so damn confused on what to get. So, typing this out to sort out my thoughts on what to do. Oh, using jargon Third Miracle Ticket (TMT) and Second Miracle Ticket (SMT) a lot here.

    My options, roughly in order of my preference:


    Wind
    Notable Hime: Awakened Gaia, Titania, Hastur, Odin, Cybele, Zephyrus
    Grid: 135%

    I failed to get SSR Cybele, but thanks to pulling Hastur, my Wind is in a really, really good spot. As such, I'm just TMT away from having an extremely good Wind team. Sadly, since that needs to be SSR Cybele, I won't be able to get Seth for a long, long time.

    So the problem is - what to do with this SMT? To have a full, PROPER team I'd need to get Cu Chulainn. Her guaranteed-triple skill is an extremely big asset for Burst Wind teams, and outclasses my unreliable, crappy Odin by far. However, using SMT on Cu Chulainn feels so... wrong. She's very one-dimensional and literally just there for her burst generation.

    There's also the problem that I don't really like Wind's playstyle. Titania in particular requires so much babying it's annoying. As such, despite my Wind team being clearly the strongest, I doubt I'll commit my SMT to it. Odin is a crappy version of Cu Chulainn and kinda fulfills the same role, so my Wind team should be extremely good even if I only spend my TMT on it.


    Fire
    Notable Hime: Amaterasu, Ares, Acala, Yamaraja, Brynhildr
    Grid: 122%

    Ah, christ. After pulling Amaterasu, who truly is unbelievably good, I guess Fire is back into the Miracle Ticket fight. I am, however, still lacking THREE cores; Svarog, Uriel and Mars. Also, awakening my Ares is a possibility. Since I have six Eyes, that wouldn't stop me from getting Svarog either.

    Svarog is just outright amazing, and I could Awaken her right away.
    Since we supposedly have the buffed version of Uriel, she's great even before her Awakening.
    Mars has her -15% Fire resistance, and Dispel.

    If I'll go for Fire, I'm leaning towards Mars. This would mean that my teams would be:
    SMT: Awakened Ares, Yamaraja/Brynhildr, Mars, Amaterasu
    TMT: Awakened Ares, Awakened Svarog, Mars, Amaterasu
    FMT: Ideal combination - depending on content - of Awakened Ares/Svarog/Uriel/Acala, Mars, Amaterasu. Well, Acala Awakening isn't quite in time for FMT I think, but still. My Fire team would be utterly ridiculous. As such, going for Fire on SMT would lock me into Fire route.

    Water
    Notable Hime: Ryu-Oh, Poseidon, Shiva, Triton, Belphegor
    Grid: 150%

    I really, really like Water. It's just plain fun.
    The problem? I have zero cores. I'm lacking SSR Nike, Water Raphael AND Cthulhu. Originally, the plan was to get Cthulhu. But is that worth it, since the ideal combination of Water SSRs would take me all the time until FMT to reach...?

    I... don't think so. But on the other hand, taking Cthulhu here would still leave my options open. As in, if I pick Water with SMT, I can decide which element to main with TMT, as Wind/Water/Thunder would all have amazing options.

    Thunder
    Notable Hime: Awakened Thor, Raiko, Brahma, Astraea, Pumpkin Artemis
    Grid: 143%

    Thunder has issues... but the good news is, since I have Brahma, I basically have all decent Thunder SSRs available in SMT. Thunder TMT is reserved for Mammon, clearly. So nothing here for now, will consider you during TMT, Mammon.



    So I guess ultimately, SMT for me is deciding whether to go Fire or Wind/Thunder/Water...
    What is a poor Slashley to do?
    I would probably run Cthulhu to beef up your water team, if only to make your life easier when it comes to dealing with fire events.

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    Basically everyone knows that I'm a sucker for Fire and at this time I would've gone for it if I were you; why? Because there's a higher chance of you getting one of the holy water trinity (even though you don't need Nike period) than Mars/Uriel 3/2

    It's up to you but I wouldn't go for any Wind/Thunder that you'll end up replacing in the near future...

    Oddly enough I didn't saw you quoting anything about the universal attributes that don't get a disadvantage off attribute, maybe those are better choices if you're lacking in any...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverbloom View Post
    Oddly enough I didn't saw you quoting anything about the universal attributes that don't get a disadvantage off attribute, maybe those are better choices if you're lacking in any...
    That's because my Light and Dark teams are miserable.

    Dark is fine for SRs, but just doesn't function well in practice.
    My Light team is Sol. With... Belebog. And... ... Artemis? ... ... yeah, no. There's no need for me to even consider building a Light team at this time.

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    I feel that unless u pull the eido, it’s kinda late to go light when ur other elements r so far ahead

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    Hello, I'm planning to buy my first miracle ticket and is hoping someone got time to help me out. I've been playing the game at work for a while but never put time in to learn it until now and I'm not sure what element to main and which Kamihime to use my ticket on.

    These are my Kamihime's:


    Fire:
    (SSR) None
    (SR) Brynhildr, Amon, Agni, Motu, Ragaraja, Ceridwen, Kagutsuchi, Nataku
    (R) Nergal, Baphomet, Ignis, Hestia, Dazbog, Rakshasa,Taikoubou, Zeruel

    Water:
    (SSR) Poseidon
    (SR) Cupid, Parvati, Enkidu, Nodens, Oceanus, Nike
    (R) Abzu, Ganges, Dagon, Oto-hime, Circe, Kushinada, Rusalka, Undine

    Wind:
    (SSR) Cybele
    (SR) Krampus, Guan Yu, Iblis, Freja, Oberon, Cronus, Hermes, Cybele
    (R) Orpheus, Vulthoom, Caspiel, Reginleiv, Scathach, Puck, Boreas, Zephyrus

    Lightning:
    (SSR) Jupiter
    (SR) Psyche, Pumpkin Artemis, Krishna, Nemesis, Baal, Ramiel
    (R) Cherubim, Skuld, Perun, Indra

    Dark:
    (SSR) None
    (SR) Meretsenger, Lu Bu, Bastet, Pharol, Eligos, Tsukuyomi, Beelzebub
    (R) Apep, Naberius, Mephistopheles, Astaroth

    Light:
    (SSR) Metatron, Sol
    (SR) Uzume, Diana, Brynhildr, Uranus, Belobog, Artemis
    (R) Perun, Inanna, Dike, Orpheus, Urania



    Any advice / suggestions would be very much appriciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    So I guess ultimately, SMT for me is deciding whether to go Fire or Wind/Thunder/Water...
    What is a poor Slashley to do?
    i m not pro, but if i were u, i'd take Cthulhu or SSR Nike. i would still keep Wind as main but Water as a backup team to compliment eachother.

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