Miracle ticket thread

[Sora]

Yeah i think i should've pick Osiris she'd be more usefull than Sol for me right now. (checked a vid of a dark team running sol and her dmg is lame even if it's not the main reason you use her ofc)

But nvm, some regret but Sol will still be usefull in my dark team and fix my sustain issue i acutally have and she give me a good reason to work on a ligth team
too ! Tho thanks all for your advices

Well, in my opinion Osiris is awesome! Her heal isn't that strong but it offers +15 burst gauge for your entire party. Furthermore it has a short CD (5 Turns).
Her dizziness skill is also nice in Accessory Quest it helps me a lot sometimes.

Later with Pluto + Satan awakened and Osiris ofc you will have a good sinergy and a fast burst build.

Therefore I would pick Satan or Osiris now but... I am little bit too late to recommend you something.

However you have two core light Himes now. Therefore I would try to complete it and grab another good SSR light Hime with the next miracle ticket.

[Tao]

Well, in my opinion Osiris is awesome! Her heal isn't that strong but it offers +15 burst gauge for your entire party. Furthermore it has a short CD (5 Turns).
Her dizziness skill is also nice in Accessory Quest it helps me a lot sometimes.

Later with Pluto + Satan awakened and Osiris ofc you will have a good sinergy and a fast burst build.

Therefore I would pick Satan or Osiris now but... I am little bit too late to recommend you something.

Does Satan have her Aw form yet ? I think the best choice for late term would'been indeed Satan , Osirs looks great and would help me a lot especially now but i dont see her in my end game build, or just in background. Running Sol will slow by a lot my potential considering Osiris , but i think it'll be enough to handle current content with a good grind. Safer choice i'd said. Osiris would be the best for now, Satan probably the best later on when i'd Aw her (Wich wouldnt happen for a long time anyway as i'm short on draconic eyes and hades /susano do need aw too , not like i think aw susanoo any time soon aha) and Sol between both. Note that if i havnt LTsu i wouldnt have even considering her but for my current stat i think she's the safest pick , helping me on dark side and gimme the tool to work on my ligth team! So i can focus on Dark/Light team for the end game stuff

Reason why i dont see Osiris in my end game dark team is cuz i prefer pluto, and then satan to replace susanoo (Tho yes i could've pick Satan ) Anyway gonna rely on luck for Satan and next miracle ticket will be Pluto , thanks all !

Sorry English isnt my native langage

[Tao]

Just to say all in all i'm happy with Sol pick and thanks for yours advices , each of them were legit and understable (Sorry i coudlnt edit my last msg)

[Sora]

Well, for a fast burst build I would rather have Osiris then Hades.
IMO Hades isn't that good even her awakening isn't awesome. For a defense build she is good but you could also run with Jeanne + Pluto (she is also a tanker)

If you want to use Pluto then you should aim for Satan awakened (she will get her awakening in august), Osiris, Amon U (to reach -50 def down)
Ex-skill: Shingens Ex-skill

For late game maybe: Shingen with Ambush, Satan AW, Pluto, Osiris and Chernobog (she is a one man army)

However you should try to get every useful SSR weapon and not for dark and light.

[BlazeAlter]

Hades isn't that good even her awakening isn't awesome.

Uh, no.
I guess you haven't done any rank 3-4 accessory quests yet? (If you do plan to main dark and use that for all elements)
In said quests, those trash mobs can start trolling u hard by double/triple atking one of your important himes and if you don't have any potions/super potions to fix that accident, then things can get ugly real quick.
(This could also apply to future hard content like guild order or tower of malice maybe)

I can somehow agree that Hades, while unawakened, is someone you don't need that much right now, but when she's awakened she gains a combo atk rate down that gets added to her death spear ability, which then can get applied to the mobs on the field and can prevent accidents like what I said earlier. Her chaos inferno also adds a "sleeping" move that has a chance to be applied to trash mobs, which is also useful if it hits

Sure, you can take Azathoth for her combo atk rate down but she has a longer CD usage. I'd rather take 2 combo atk rate downs and apply them to both wave 1 and 2 cuz I've experienced some ugly things happening in rank 3 accessory quests, and having 2 means the other one (most likely Hades) can also get applied to the last boss just in time.

[Aidoru]

Unless you're planning to intentionally use the weaker Nyarlathotep for whatever reason, Hades is the only dark SSR with an A-frame atk down. Nyar being one of the only 2 SR and has a weaker debuff, the other one being a future release that requires a dot on the enemy for the atk down to even take effect.

It then doesn't help that every dark B-frame debuffer is time limited, making any player without one of them basically stuck with Joan+Sniper or Dart+Trial if you want some proper debuffs.

If your running raid related stuff, sure, do whatever you want but for anything that you can't get carried with, Hades is very important to have in a dark team, even without her awakening.

[Sora]

Uh, no.
I guess you haven't done any rank 3-4 accessory quests yet? (If you do plan to main dark and use that for all elements)
In said quests, those trash mobs can start trolling u hard by double/triple atking one of your important himes and if you don't have any potions/super potions to fix that accident, then things can get ugly real quick.
(This could also apply to future hard content like guild order or tower of malice maybe)

I can somehow agree that Hades, while unawakened, is someone you don't need that much right now, but when she's awakened she gains a combo atk rate down that gets added to her death spear ability, which then can get applied to the mobs on the field and can prevent accidents like what I said earlier. Her chaos inferno also adds a "sleeping" move that has a chance to be applied to trash mobs, which is also useful if it hits

Sure, you can take Azathoth for her combo atk rate down but she has a longer CD usage. I'd rather take 2 combo atk rate downs and apply them to both wave 1 and 2 cuz I've experienced some ugly things happening in rank 3 accessory quests, and having 2 means the other one (most likely Hades) can also get applied to the last boss just in time.

I can do all Rank 3 quest with my dark team without problems. Rank 4 just light because I don't have enough damage to kill them faster.
However I have Dark Amaterasu in my team and seriously I don't need another defender/balance SSR Hime.
Yeah, I know she is limited!

Sleeping is actually useless... I have Hypnos and I already tried it out. Osiris dizziness skill is a lot better.

IMO Haded is just situational. She's definitely not bad enough to be benched, but certainly not good enough to be regularly deployed.
It also depends on your team.

Furthermore if you run Jeanne with Sniper-Shot or have a Dark Hime with B-frame attack down + Pluto = you have enough def + Vine you reach -50 attack down and you have two damage cut skills.
For people who don't have Hades.

IMO Hades isn't a MUST have Dark Hime but if you have her then it's good.
But there are also other options.

[AutoCrimson]

honestly i'd pick Hades over Osiris in MT, if i had to choose

[BlazeAlter]

However I have Dark Amaterasu in my team and seriously I don't need another defender/balance SSR Hime.

Yo just to clear things up, I'm not convincing you to get Hades and put her on your team lol. I just can't agree with your earlier statement that Hades isn't amazing even awakened. Not gonna brag or anything but Hades was a huge help to me during the medusa ragnarok because she can save me once from the petrify debuff. Sure, not all bosses have dangerous debuffs like that but she can still block some pesky debuffs like poison or cursed from enemies (which was also a nice help when I soloed baron's ragnarok so Osiris heals wouldnt go to waste)

Sleeping is actually useless... I have Hypnos and I already tried it out. Osiris dizziness skill is a lot better.

Well I haven't actually used a debuff like that before since I don't have Hypnos and I'm not gonna bother getting her either. How useless is it anyway? I'm curious though.
I mean the one for Hades awakening could be stronger but I can't say for sure since its not here yet on our version, all I can do is speculate but I'm not gonna rely on that either, just like I don't rely on Osiris dizzy skill even if it hits. I had that hit on some fights and sometimes it doesn't even work once. It's a nice touch that I like but not something I would rely on too much

Yeah, I know she is limited!

IMO Haded is just situational. She's definitely not bad enough to be benched, but certainly not good enough to be regularly deployed.

Furthermore if you run Jeanne with Sniper-Shot or have a Dark Hime with B-frame attack down + Pluto = you have enough def.
For people who don't have Hades.

IMO Hades isn't a MUST have Dark Hime but if you have her then it's good.

Still can't agree with your statement of her not being good enough to be regularly deployed, but well we all have our own opinions. I'll respect yours lol
and yes, since dark amat is a limited amazing SSR, not everyone would have the luxury that you do that would allow them to run different main souls, and as Aidoru said, most B frame debuffers of dark are kinda limited too (Lu bu is a good option but if a newbie wants to main dark they wont have her until her event returns)
and the def thing isn't Hades' main use, damage cut and def buff are 2 different things, and obviously you'd have more survivability and receive less damage if you have 2 damage cut abilities from joan and pluto

tl;dr
don't say Hades isn't that great for people who aren't in the same situation as you are (you having dark amaterasu and all, everyone who mains dark wants her too you know, but not everyone got her and everyone will be stuck waiting for her return next year). She's a good starting hime for dark that provides some basic needs and even more so when she gets her awakening

[Sora]

Yo just to clear things up, I'm not convincing you to get Hades and put her on your team lol. I just can't agree with your earlier statement that Hades isn't amazing even awakened. Not gonna brag or anything but Hades was a huge help to me during the medusa ragnarok because she can save me once from the petrify debuff. Sure, not all bosses have dangerous debuffs like that but she can still block some pesky debuffs like poison or cursed from enemies (which was also a nice help when I soloed baron's ragnarok so Osiris heals wouldnt go to waste)


Well I haven't actually used a debuff like that before since I don't have Hypnos and I'm not gonna bother getting her either. How useless is it anyway? I'm curious though.
I mean the one for Hades awakening could be stronger but I can't say for sure since its not here yet on our version, all I can do is speculate but I'm not gonna rely on that either, just like I don't rely on Osiris dizzy skill even if it hits. I had that hit on some fights and sometimes it doesn't even work once. It's a nice touch that I like but not something I would rely on too much



Still can't agree with your statement of her not being good enough to be regularly deployed, but well we all have our own opinions. I'll respect yours lol
and yes, since dark amat is a limited amazing SSR, not everyone would have the luxury that you do that would allow them to run different main souls, and as Aidoru said, most B frame debuffers of dark are kinda limited too (Lu bu is a good option but if a newbie wants to main dark they wont have her until her event returns)
and the def thing isn't Hades' main use, damage cut and def buff are 2 different things, and obviously you'd have more survivability and receive less damage if you have 2 damage cut abilities from joan and pluto

tl;dr
don't say Hades isn't that great for people who aren't in the same situation as you are (you having dark amaterasu and all, everyone who mains dark wants her too you know, but not everyone got her and everyone will be stuck waiting for her return next year). She's a good starting hime for dark that provides some basic needs and even more so when she gets her awakening

First of all I apologize for my statement about Hades.
She is good but imo not that awesome and yes, you are right she is a good starting hime for a dark team.

But I just wanted to say even if you don't have Dark Amaterasu or Hades. There is also the option to run Jeanne with Snipper Shot if the content is hard and you need attack down.

But everyone has a different opinion.
Even if I don't have dark Amaterasu I would choose Osiris/Satan/Thanatos/Pluto and next year Amon U upgraded over Hades. That's my opinion.
Later with Satan AW and her dark resistance down I think dizziness will work a lot better.

About sleeping:
If the moob wakes up sleeping automatically vanish in other words there is no CD for sleeping like blindness or dizziness.