Miracle ticket thread

[BlazeAlter]

You are absolutely right :P
Shall we move to the other thread? But as you said it's dead, so who cares.

I do wish that thread comes back to life someday, cuz like the light thread, it was so interesting and entertaining reading it cuz it also gives me other ideas that I've never thought of yet

The thing is that Amon U is slow and low on damage.

For now....
It seriously sucks that we have to wait a long time just for her to get her OP buffs. When I saw those buffs for the first time I knew she turned into a true boss killer lol. I mean I love that ability here even tho its still 4.5-5.5x and not 7-7.5x yet, but my main problem with it is the long 8CD

About Chernobog, If I got her during a random roll or something then I'd definitely try using her and stuff, seems like she'd be fun to play with, but she wouldn't be on my to-miracle list of himes though.

cuz for example if I have completed my team's main roster, I would probably use the next miracle ticket for another element instead (like light, if one has a dark main, cuz lets face it, its a pain in the ass sometimes to face ur own element, and killing things faster w/ elemental advantage is much better), because it seems like a waste to me if I wanted to miracle someone just to place them in the back, when most of the main team doesn't die too often anyway... and spending another miracle ticket to strengthen another team is good in the long run considering we have some future content like guild order or tower of malice coming up

Yep its what i meant ! Hard choice then r maybe not? I plan to play both element at the end of the day and my dark grid weap is done for now (cant improve it untill next dark event) on the other hand i have better long run tools for my light team (2 mlb guns from Baron and 3 mlb light ssr eido vs one mlb pride weap and jack lantern mlb for dark ) tho getting pluto then ssr art with 3rd and 4th ticket looks good for me . Ik i plan far far away but hey better have a direction to follow !

Sorry for my english

It's normal to have both light and dark teams since they strengthen each other by handling their respective accessory quests and events. Of course focusing on one of them first is the obvious choice.. in your case, it's your dark team
and the bad news is, the next dark event (besides envy union event) is kinda far away.... which sucks.
I main dark too, so I'm kinda suffering in improving my own stats since there's no new dark weapons for me to add to my own grid..

[Sora]

It seriously sucks that we have to wait a long time just for her to get her OP buffs. When I saw those buffs for the first time I knew she turned into a true boss killer lol. I mean I love that ability here even tho its still 4.5-5.5x and not 7-7.5x yet, but my main problem with it is the long 8CD

That's why she is low on damage and speed... Next year she will be better.
But at the moment with my current team I don't really need her even after her upgrade.
Maybe I will switch between Dark Amaterasu and Amon U, if I have her but I won't waste a miracle ticket for Amon U.
But for the others she will be awesome and a lot better than now.

cuz for example if I have completed my team's main roster, I would probably use the next miracle ticket for another element instead (like light, if one has a dark main, cuz lets face it, its a pain in the ass sometimes to face ur own element, and killing things faster w/ elemental advantage is much better), because it seems like a waste to me if I wanted to miracle someone just to place them in the back, when most of the main team doesn't die too often anyway... and spending another miracle ticket to strengthen another team is good in the long run considering we have some future content like guild order or tower of malice coming up

That's the long term plan.

At the moment I just need Pluto and if I have enough luck with jewel gatcha or premium ticket I will work on my other grids and Himes.
However my dark grid is composed of 7 SR Assault (most of them from Dark Disaster Raid), 1 SR Defender and 2 SSR Kamihime Weapons.
I reach 106% Assault and 27% defender (32% with Bastet). But the next Dark Event's are months away >.<

The thing is that my only SSR Himes besides dark is Gaia.
Therefore it will depend what SSR Himes I will get till the next miracle ticket.
My light Team is a little bit odd I have Belebog and Diana. Most of the time I will use Dark Amaterasu for each element and run Cassiopeia/Andromeda.
Well, I hope I will get Sol or another core SSR light Hime because like you said it will be a pain in the ass to run off-element each time especially in tower.

I will try to get every usefull SSR Weapon and some SR Assault Weapon for each element from every event.

About Pluto:

I never said anything to suggest replacing pluto btw lol. I agree 100% that she is definitely a core dark hime, not only because of her buffs but you can never go wrong with a damage cut ability
Honestly, if I had that during Rahab ragnarok, I would've always won
edit: Also, where did you see that info about pluto having a 100% burst damage multiplier per lego stack? I don't see anything in JP wiki that confirms that
And I don't doubt your damage, so chill lol

Well, I just wanted to say that she is really awesome and I don't think I will replace her until DMM release a better SSR Dark Hime than her. But then she would get a Awakening later xP
Here 100% burst increase: (google translator translate 100% to 1%... lol)


Bear also confirmed that it is a +100% burst increase for each lego stack. So, yes her burst will be amazing
Furthermore she is not only a tank also a damage dealer. She also offers 50% damage increase for your entire dark team (20% A-frame attack up and with lego stack 30% dark attack up)
I also love Pluto's design. I am not really a fan for Lolis but I love her character design.

[Slashley]

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Bear also confirmed that it is a +100% burst increase for each lego stack. So, yes her burst will be amazing
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Although I'm staying far away from the rest of this discussion, I'd just like to point out that this is unlikely to be nearly as good as it sounds.

Now, "100% more" means "double damage." However, +100% burst damage means that you get 100% (one auto-attack) damage added to your Burst. SSRs already have 500%, so for actually double damage, you need five stacks. This might not be too problematic, but keep in mind that currently our +burst is capped at +300% and later at +500%. Also note that Hime like that are usually incompatible with Provisional Forest builds as Shingen puts you to +burst cap anyway. Furthermore, burst damage cap is a thing, and Hime with +burst damage will just hit this damage cap. Maybe. I'm not sure if that's going to happen without double P2W Eidolon...

Anyway, I haven't looked up if Pluto works like this or not, but you may want to tone your expectations down a bit.

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She also offers 50% damage increase for your entire dark team (20% A-frame attack up and with lego stack 30% dark attack up)

Because these are just added to already existing modifiers, you're NOT going to get +50% damage. More like 5-10% from the Atk up and ~15% from the elem+. Less if you have a P2W Eidolon running.

[Sora]

Although I'm staying far away from the rest of this discussion, I'd just like to point out that this is unlikely to be nearly as good as it sounds.

Now, "100% more" means "double damage." However, +100% burst damage means that you get 100% (one auto-attack) damage added to your Burst. SSRs already have 500%, so for actually double damage, you need five stacks. This might not be too problematic, but keep in mind that currently our +burst is capped at +300% and later at +500%. Also note that Hime like that are usually incompatible with Provisional Forest builds as Shingen puts you to +burst cap anyway. Furthermore, burst damage cap is a thing, and Hime with +burst damage will just hit this damage cap. Maybe. I'm not sure if that's going to happen without double P2W Eidolon...

Anyway, I haven't looked up if Pluto works like this or not, but you may want to tone your expectations down a bit.Because these are just added to already existing modifiers, you're NOT going to get +50% damage. More like 5-10% from the Atk up and ~15% from the elem+. Less if you have a P2W Eidolon running.

Nobody said it will be a double damage.
However her 50% damage increase for your entire dark team + damage cut, that's already good enough to bench her in a burst/damage build rather than Hades.
And I know that isn't a double damage but 20-25% are also good and I don't know if I will ever get a P2W Eidolong, but who cares?
P2W Eidolon will make your life easier but you can also do without them. Don't know if this also applies for tower.

Wait. Shingen offers +200% burst damage and Pluto offers for her self for each lego stack +100% burst damage. Therefore she would just need 3 lego stack to reach 500%, or not?

[Slashley]

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Wait. Shingen offers +200% burst damage and Pluto offers for her self for each lego stack +100% burst damage. Therefore she would just need 3 lego stack to reach 500%, or not?

If I recall right, the patch which increases the +burst cap also buffs Provisional Forest. Maybe? Can't be arsed to check right now.
Also, relic weapons going to be a thing. Shingen's HP weapon will take you all the way to +500% burst I think? Maybe. I can't be arsed to check right now. But, I can tell you that you usually don't want to use HP relic weapons, the elemental damage boost is just too damn good to pass up on, so maybe this is a moot point?

[Sora]

If I recall right, the patch which increases the +burst cap also buffs Provisional Forest. Maybe? Can't be arsed to check right now.
Also, relic weapons going to be a thing. Shingen's HP weapon will take you all the way to +500% burst I think? Maybe. I can't be arsed to check right now. But, I can tell you that you usually don't want to use HP relic weapons, the elemental damage boost is just too damn good to pass up on, so maybe this is a moot point?

Well I won't use Shingen's HP relic weapon.
Hercules would be the better choice to reach def cap with less debuffers and I could run more damage dealer or rather switch Dark Amaterasu with another SSR dark Hime.
Therefore Pluto isn't a bad option. PF+3 lego stack = 500% will be enough.

yeah I know what she does lol. I've done my own digging into the jp wiki months ago and from time to time
and no wonder I was confused. when I did that google translate thing myself i only saw a 1% thing then a 300% lol. google translate just being google translate I guess...
I agree that she is quite cute though lol.

Yes, it's google's fault

Hmm I'm thinking of a situation where you won't be able to stack as much legos for pluto since of course, depending on the course of the battle you would have to use her damage cut for an overdrive and her buffs when u have ur burst ready, which could potentially leave you with just 1 lego stack (unless of course you can reach that 6CD before bursting or something cuz some fights are long and some fights are short, so I guess that could affect how many legos you can stack before you can do a full burst)
Well all we can do is speculate right now, since she's not here yet... would be best to try her out for ourselves before we say anything with 100% confirmation

Well, even if you have just one lego stack + PF you will reach 300%, that's also not bad.
And yes, you are right we should wait and see if Pluto is good enough to use a miracle ticket for her or not.

[BlazeAlter]

Yes, it's google's fault

Well, even if you have just one lego stack + PF you will reach 300%, that's also not bad.
And yes, you are right we should wait and see if Pluto is good enough to use a miracle ticket for her or not.

you don't know how many headaches I've gone through in different games while enduring google translate's butchered sentences...
She is worth the miracle ticket lol, no mistake about that. The only thing we can't confirm for ourselves is the lego stack burst modifier thingy

[BlazeAlter]

About Pluto:


Well, I just wanted to say that she is really awesome and I don't think I will replace her until DMM release a better SSR Dark Hime than her. But then she would get a Awakening later xP
Here 100% burst increase: (google translator translate 100% to 1%... lol)


Bear also confirmed that it is a +100% burst increase for each lego stack. So, yes her burst will be amazing
Furthermore she is not only a tank also a damage dealer. She also offers 50% damage increase for your entire dark team (20% A-frame attack up and with lego stack 30% dark attack up)
I also love Pluto's design. I am not really a fan for Lolis but I love her character design.

yeah I know what she does lol. I've done my own digging into the jp wiki months ago and from time to time
and no wonder I was confused. when I did that google translate thing myself i only saw a 1% thing then a 300% lol. google translate just being google translate I guess...
I agree that she is quite cute though lol.

Nobody said it will be a double damage.
However her 50% damage increase (20% A-frame attack up and 30% dark attack up)for your entire dark team + damage cut, that's already good enough to bench her in a burst/damage build.

Wait. Shingen offers +200% burst damage and Pluto offers for her self for each lego stack +100% burst damage. Therefore she would just need 3 lego stack to reach 500%, or not?

Hmm I'm thinking of a situation where you won't be able to stack as much legos for pluto since of course, depending on the course of the battle you would have to use her damage cut for an overdrive and her buffs when u have ur burst ready, which could potentially leave you with just 1 lego stack (unless of course you can reach that 6CD before bursting or something cuz some fights are long and some fights are short, so I guess that could affect how many legos you can stack before you can do a full burst)
Well all we can do is speculate right now, since she's not here yet... would be best to try her out for ourselves before we say anything with 100% confirmation