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    Quote Originally Posted by nonsensei View Post
    Now then.. I'm curious what you guys think I should mtix.

    Fire: Uriel, Ares AW, Acala, E̶n̶m̶a̶ .. err, I mean Yamaraja. (no Hephaestus)
    Water: Aphro, Pussydon, Nike(U), Asherah
    Wind: Cu, Odin, Hastur, Set, fresh from guaranteed: Cybele(U)
    Thunder: Thor AW, Jupiter
    Light: Sol AW, Michael, Raphy, Tsukuyomi, Eros, Shamash, Atum
    Dark: Suu-san AW, Dark Ammy, Amon(U)

    Was thinking so far about fire coz it has punching power, but lacks debuff, dark coz it supposedly is my secondary element & thunder coz it's utterly shit. But with Cybele(U), I'm one step away from completing wind meta.

    Targets:
    Fire: Svarog/Mars
    Thunder: Mammon
    Dark: Pluto
    Wind: Titania
    F̶r̶e̶y̶

    Actually, it kinda depends on what content you find the hardest to clear from now till the next miracle ticket. Since you already throw light at everything, ragnarok probably isn't a factor in your consideration.

    Wind is... an element that I recently found myself discouraging because it doesn't actually take too much to clear thunder content as it is, save for guild order, which with your current team I can't really see struggling too much. Still, a decent pick if you want your team to work more universally.

    Your water team is a Raphael/ Cthulhu away from being set I guess? You already have Asherah (and I hope a grid) for your water team to push you through the first GO, which iirc has silly amounts of debuff resistance or something. Regarding events, there's literally no fire events till tower, and the next miracle ticket should be out by then.

    Thunder is... eh? Even if you invest in Mammon right now I can't see you performing ridiculously well with that team set up. It's definitely your weakest element though, so if you'd like to not throw light at everything for once this is the weakest link in your chain you gotta reinforce.

    Fire is quite a decent element to rely on for your case. The hardest content right now for fire being rag and GO (I'm still basing the assumption of debuff res being stupid high) means your lack of Amaterasu and Mars doesn't actually hurt your gameplay as much as it would otherwise, but it also means you're kinda stuck using fire for high debuff res content, and definitely not in other situations. I'd go for Svarog if you want fire.

    All that analysis builds up to me recommending Pluto, since you already have a pretty solid group of girls for that, and it covers the ass of your main element that you throw everywhere. Besides, it might be a good element to rely on for difficult overdrive content with dark Amaterasu on your side anyway.

    Also, since I'm the one talking here, here's the obligatory reason for picking dark: Pluto's got quality scenes.
    Last edited by Cobblemaniac; 08-10-2018 at 05:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac View Post
    F̶r̶e̶y̶

    Actually, it kinda depends on what content you find the hardest to clear from now till the next miracle ticket. Since you already throw light at everything, ragnarok probably isn't a factor in your consideration.

    Wind is... an element that I recently found myself discouraging because it doesn't actually take too much to clear thunder content as it is, save for guild order, which with your current team I can't really see struggling too much. Still, a decent pick if you want your team to work more universally.

    Your water team is a Raphael/ Cthulhu away from being set I guess? You already have Asherah (and I hope a grid) for your water team to push you through the first GO, which iirc has silly amounts of debuff resistance or something. Regarding events, there's literally no fire events till tower, and the next miracle ticket should be out by then.

    Thunder is... eh? Even if you invest in Mammon right now I can't see you performing ridiculously well with that team set up. It's definitely your weakest element though, so if you'd like to not throw light at everything for once this is the weakest link in your chain you gotta reinforce.

    Fire is quite a decent element to rely on for your case. The hardest content right now for fire being rag and GO (I'm still basing the assumption of debuff res being stupid high) means your lack of Amaterasu and Mars doesn't actually hurt your gameplay as much as it would otherwise, but it also means you're kinda stuck using fire for high debuff res content, and definitely not in other situations. I'd go for Svarog if you want fire.

    All that analysis builds up to me recommending Pluto, since you already have a pretty solid group of girls for that, and it covers the ass of your main element that you throw everywhere. Besides, it might be a good element to rely on for difficult overdrive content with dark Amaterasu on your side anyway.

    Also, since I'm the one talking here, here's the obligatory reason for picking dark: Pluto's got quality scenes.
    I'm at the point of SL mats just keep piling up, so yeah, grids aren't a concern. As such, events don't really give me any difficulty & I doubt I'd have much trouble with GO, either. My main concern is the preparations for tower.. a̶n̶d̶ ̶g̶e̶t̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶n̶e̶w̶ ̶t̶o̶y̶s̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶p̶l̶a̶y̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶g̶e̶n̶e̶r̶a̶l̶.

    I didn't even consider water coz neither Cthulhu nor Raphy would bring too much of a change. I can reach 50% def debuff with Herc already (currently using a team of Aphro, Asherah, Nike(U), Belphy with PF on Herc) & neither of them increase my overall dmg output by much.

    Tbh, I didn't think I'd get a Pluto recommendation out of these options. I felt like my only reason to pick her really is solely because I considered dark my 2nd element to go with. Gonna consider it once again. I hope it's not only dick reason coz I don't really appreciate lolis.
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    Would say Svarog (cause cute) or Titania (cause meta slave ~~)
    Just throwing random names out there, don't mind me.

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    I am in need of some extra insights of what should i mtix. Here are my himes:

    Fire: Yamaraja, Amaterasu, Acala, Dakki

    Water: Water Raphael, Cthulhu, Nike [U], Ea (A)

    Wind: Cu Chulainn, Cybele [U], Gaia (A), Set, Azazel, Odin

    Thunder: Tyr (A), Brahma, Raiko, Thunder Michael

    Dark: Satan, Thanatos, Hades [A], Osiris

    Light: Light Tsukuyomi, Michael, Eros, Sol (A), Metatron, Shamash

    My strongest weapon grids are Water, Wind and Light.

    Previously i was thinking of getting Svarog to make my fire team more interesting but i feel my water team could be a bit more spicy with Asherah as i also have a much better eidolon for water than for fire. Wind is also an option with either Hastur or Titania but benching an SSR hime even out of Subs when other elements could use an improvement kinda bothers me a bit.

    Which would be best option of these? Or something else?

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    Dark - Pluto
    water - asherah
    Wind - (not needed but very nice to have, Titania for the go to burst setup)

    Would not go for fire, since its really lacking powerful himes imo, amat is very good, but the rest is kinda mäh

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    Quote Originally Posted by nonsensei View Post
    I'm at the point of SL mats just keep piling up, so yeah, grids aren't a concern. As such, events don't really give me any difficulty & I doubt I'd have much trouble with GO, either. My main concern is the preparations for tower.. a̶n̶d̶ ̶g̶e̶t̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶n̶e̶w̶ ̶t̶o̶y̶s̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶p̶l̶a̶y̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶g̶e̶n̶e̶r̶a̶l̶.

    I didn't even consider water coz neither Cthulhu nor Raphy would bring too much of a change. I can reach 50% def debuff with Herc already (currently using a team of Aphro, Asherah, Nike(U), Belphy with PF on Herc) & neither of them increase my overall dmg output by much.

    Tbh, I didn't think I'd get a Pluto recommendation out of these options. I felt like my only reason to pick her really is solely because I considered dark my 2nd element to go with. Gonna consider it once again. I hope it's not only dick reason coz I don't really appreciate lolis.
    It isn't... I wouldn't try forcing my dick pick on other people seriously you know.

    That said, preparing for tower will change quite a couple of things.

    I still discourage going after wind meta unless you really like going after silly damage, since it's not an absolute need, and probably won't be for a lot of content till the next miracle.

    Dark is less of a candidate now considering not even light tower is released yet. Previously I recommended dark for it's kinda opposite utility compared to light in being thrown at everything: light survives practically everything and dark nukes everything, and besides it helps your survival with dark Amaterasu on your side, a free BP not normally seen on other nuke teams.

    But I'm hard pressed to believe you should really start fixing your thunder team for the second tower since it's water element. I'm not sure about your first tower team being fine enough, but grids aren't a problem for you so... it leaves Mammon. Your thunder team is kinda a matter of requiring 2 miracle tickets to run with, so if you do aim for building for tower, this is the most optimal setup so you can ticket another thunder girl before tower (Baal U most likely), if you have particularly trash RNG.

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    Pluto or Asherah?

    Dark: Satan, Amon, Osiris and Hades
    Water: Ryu-Oh, Cthulhu, Snow Raphael and Neptune

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    Quote Originally Posted by nonsensei View Post
    My boner for wind meta prevailed in the end, so Titania.
    Mammon wouldn't have been a good upgrade for tower purpose coz weak nuke without d'Art & her debuff is useless against the last boss. So is d'Art. Sooo, yeah. Rip thunder. My grid being as is, I doubt I'm gonna have trouble except the last 2-3 floors.
    Now my only problem is that I can't yet play with my new toy coz I wanna save up HEs for Phoenix 2nd, as I only have a 1* copy of the bow. Gonna take a while to level Titania to 80.. twice.
    Do tell how it feels to rapid fire burst man.

    Also, iirc it's only the bosses in the tower that have silly debuff res? I'm looking at the DMM wiki section for tower and it mentions "resistance" for most trash mobs are... beginner to standard level? I'm thinking that means debuff res, but might also refer to def values. A speed run for extra tower points could use some Mammon, if that applies? Of course, you could just Baal U too, but hey you already spent the miracle ticket.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Pluto or Asherah?

    Dark: Satan, Amon, Osiris and Hades
    Water: Ryu-Oh, Cthulhu, Snow Raphael and Neptune
    Asherah most likely, so you can boost your already solid water team. Can't provide better insight as there isn't really a good glimpse of your entire setup and situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac View Post
    Asherah most likely, so you can boost your already solid water team. Can't provide better insight as there isn't really a good glimpse of your entire setup and situation.
    And my dark team isn't solid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    And my dark team isn't solid
    Well, not to say it isn't. It's a relatively good candidate to buff, except currently you face the problem of Amon and Satan's def break being the exact same frame, while you also can't hit atk break cap yet. By the time Amon's frame gets changed you'll get a shit ton more himes anyway. Your water team however, is pretty much there already, at least with sniper shot, so it's the best option you have between a 3/4 month period till your next miracle ticket IMO.

    That all assumes you're not at that end game stage where you can literally start ignoring debuffs to just blow down content after content, which is an assumption I make when I don't have enough info. I haven't analysed what would be optimal for your case if you're already at the end game stage, however, but it would help to clarify if you are. If you aren't, my recommendation is simply as it is.

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