That's why I've said "long term". In short term Snow Raph is better.
Cthulhu should work pretty ok with Vohu Manah (and everyone and their mother want Vohu), so even without AW she's not completely useless.
As for whole debuff debate. I am not sold on this "debuffs are thing of the past", because they are certainly used for Guild War for example. Thing here is that new Kamihime tend to have something more than debuffs and every 30% ele down hime is basically broken as fuck.
Specifically with Light, team of Lugh, Iris, Michael, Tishtrya/Atum that is meta now also get 50% def down from himes alone.





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