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    Quote Originally Posted by lalala View Post
    I am using Skilnel (?) (sukiiruniru) and Sati, both SR, and they both do more reg and burst dmg than Michael AW. I also have Takemi. The extra dmg gives a headstart but now I am lagging behind. Finding it very difficult to power up from here. Also having grid problems, which I talked about in Q&A. So who should I MT?
    Sati can do crazy damage with her crit buff up, so it's not that strange. Skirnir though shouldn't have higher normal damage than Mike AW.
    As for burst, individually Skirnir and Sati may do higher burst damage, but Mike AW boosts burst damage of whole party, so unless you use Shingen's bow Full Burst damage should be much higher with Mike AW (not to mention that you can full burst with Mike AW in team more often).

    As for MT: I would recommend Iris. She has that 30% ele down which is great when debuffs work and even if they don't she has good nuke, is quite fast to burst and has high amount of self buffs after burst. Lugh is also an option, but she won't truly shine without healer.
    Last edited by Gludateton; 12-02-2018 at 02:10 AM.

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    lalala Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Gludateton View Post
    Sati can do crazy damage with her crit buff up, so it's not that strange. Skirnir though shouldn't have higher normal damage than Mike AW.
    As for burst, individually Skirnir and Sati may do higher burst damage, but Mike AW boosts burst damage of whole party, so unless you use Shingen's bow Full Burst damage should be much higher with Mike AW (not to mention that you can full burst with Mike AW in team more often).

    As for MT: I would recommend Iris. She has that 30% ele down which is great when debuffs work and even if they don't she has good nuke, is quite fast to burst and has high amount of self buffs after burst. Lugh is also an option, but she won't truly shine without healer.
    Thanks for the input! Currently using Andro. Do you think it would be better if I got an additional healer to Andro instead so I can make better use of vigor weapons? Or maybe switch to water instead since I have the 120% eidolon for that (but not so great kamihime)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lalala View Post
    Thanks for the input! Currently using Andro. Do you think it would be better if I got an additional healer to Andro instead so I can make better use of vigor weapons? Or maybe switch to water instead since I have the 120% eidolon for that (but not so great kamihime)?
    Personally I would still pick Iris, she's hard to pass on. Andromeda will probably lag behind in burst gauge department with team of Iris, Takeminakata and Mike AW.

    As for water team, it largely depends on how your weapon grids are looking. Also Kamihime-wise water is not as op as light is yet (hard to say if it'll ever be) and light has no elemental disadvantage. Still, 120% eido may bring your damage to another levels, so you could check which team fares better now and pick according to results.

    Quote Originally Posted by lalala View Post
    Oh. And I just realized that 'michiru' refers to the recent limited edition grisaia collab light SSR. Were you by any chance referring to that instead? Also the Japanese transliterations are quite bad... if they're in reference to how the names are pronounced in English. I keep thinking 'Iris' is 'Elise' or some other.

    With regards to Iris, I notice that her elem down debuff affects only one enemy and takes away 20% BG. Compare this to Baal U, which targets all enemies and does not require any BG. Comparing thunder to light is like comparing apples to oranges, but I just needed to point that out.

    The only reason why I signed up for DMM was to get limited edition kami which were not available on Nutaku. No such luck of course. Just wondering if you or anyone else has had experience using them? Thanks!
    Indeed I was refering to Michiru from Grisaia's collab.
    I actually find reading イリス as Iris the most natural one, so tbh I see no problem here. Japanese alphabet is quite limited though, so sometimes you have to make some guesses.
    While it's true that Iris' ele down is single target and uses 20 BG, it lasts for 180s (instead of Baal U 90s), and Iris herself has reliable way of generating burst gauge for herself, 20 BG is also no problem when you have Mike AW. Add to this fact, that Iris is self-buffing machine and has hard hitting nuke and she's really good Kamihime.
    I have DMM account only to check new info, so I have no real experience with playing with future Kamihime.
    Last edited by Gludateton; 12-02-2018 at 04:21 AM.

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    falcontea Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Gludateton View Post
    ...I actually find reading イリス as Iris the most natural one...
    If you're German then the Japanese phonetics of it sound almost exactly how you would pronounce the name anyway.



    So there's a lot of discussion here re: the perfect team and how one year from now it's Light, but here's a question: If you don't have this team does it lock you out of any content? Let's say I quit playing today and come back in one year. Will the teams I have now still be able to get me through content, or has the game as the developers are balancing it changed so much that you need these sorts of teams to participate in end-game content meaningfully?

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    Quote Originally Posted by falcontea View Post
    If you're German then the Japanese phonetics of it sound almost exactly how you would pronounce the name anyway.



    So there's a lot of discussion here re: the perfect team and how one year from now it's Light, but here's a question: If you don't have this team does it lock you out of any content? Let's say I quit playing today and come back in one year. Will the teams I have now still be able to get me through content, or has the game as the developers are balancing it changed so much that you need these sorts of teams to participate in end-game content meaningfully?
    As far I remember: Advent events are at similar level they are now, raid events are harder (they almost doubled HP of bosses), union events are union events nothing changed here.
    But, new content released are created for people with actually high amount of time put in game, so it's much harder than things we have now. You like Catastrophe raids with 15-30m HP ? Next level's bosses have 100m+ HP and have adds with 20m+ HP. There are two additional levels of Accessory Quests (one will be here soon though) and they are not easier than those we have now. You'll see how tower event looks like pretty soon. Guild War is ranking event, you have to compete with other players, so that should be answer in itself.
    So to say it simply: the team you have now should still be capable of clearing most of content, but by not playing the game you are setting yourself behind (and it's not in Kamihime aspect, it's more about weapons' grid) and hardest available may be hard/impossible to do.

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    falcontea Guest
    So do you think just casually playing the game for the next year would keep a current player prepared for this content? "Casually" here being pretty much only spending on Miracle Tickets but otherwise picking up new Kamihime when you get lucky with jewel pulls? Because some of this discussion makes the current state of the game on DMM seem pretty bleak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by falcontea View Post
    So do you think just casually playing the game for the next year would keep a current player prepared for this content? "Casually" here being pretty much only spending on Miracle Tickets but otherwise picking up new Kamihime when you get lucky with jewel pulls? Because some of this discussion makes the current state of the game on DMM seem pretty bleak.
    Yes, you could get impression from our talk, that in future there's one best team and everything else is shit, which is not true.
    It is same now, people will tell you that one or another Kamihime is best, but that doesn't mean that others are bad. At least when looking one year ahead most content is not locked behind "one best team", unless you want to get highest ranks at competetive events (but this also holds true now). So you shouldn't have problem with most content while playing casually, you do not need to fear that.

    There are also many QoL improvements to game in future, so playing gets less tedious/irritating (let's be honest, rolling gemcha daily is pain in the ass).
    Last edited by Gludateton; 12-02-2018 at 10:57 AM.

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