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  1. #1231

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    go with Slashley' advice with Satan.
    please note that i still advocate against any new player to go dark.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AutoCrimson View Post
    go with Slashley' advice with Satan.
    please note that i still advocate against any new player to go dark.
    Then what element would you suggest and with what SSR? If I reroll getting 2 specific SSRs would probably take too long?

    Also random question but is SR Yamaraja really really bad?
    Last edited by iamnoob; 05-18-2019 at 12:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamnoob View Post
    Then what element would you suggest and with what SSR? If I reroll getting 2 specific SSRs would probably take too long?

    Also random question but is SR Yamaraja really really bad?
    Go Fire with Uriel or Svarog. I believe that is the best starting point for a strong long term team.


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    Then what element would you suggest and with what SSR? If I reroll getting 2 specific SSRs would probably take too long?
    first of all, never reroll for a hime. the only exception i can think is wild Uriel+Svarog or Tish+Mika+Meta, but i doubt anyone will achieve that on rerolling.
    i said it before, and i will say it again - fire is the safest bet for new player, and Belial, not himes is your goal to reroll

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    Yeah, reroll into a 100% Eidolon. Belial isn't a must, but any 100% will do (except SSR Diabolos IMO).
    Quote Originally Posted by iamnoob View Post
    Also random question but is SR Yamaraja really really bad?
    Nothing special, but not bad either.

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    Hello,

    first of all apologies for the wall of text, but I think that providing more information will get me more accurate advice!

    New player here looking for some advice on what to use a potential miracle ticket on for my fire team. I got really lucky and got Svarog on my 2nd account and figured this is the account to invest some time in.

    I want to use Arthur eventually as my soul alongside: Svarog, Ares & Mars*. Thus utilizing an attack buff uptime that works with Arthur's assist ability. I think Dakki would also be a great addition eventually with her rampaging and combo attack rate (A-frame). Or add Amaterasu as a staple fire defensive kamihime. I could potentially substitute Amaterasu's Attack and Defense debuffs with Sniper shot; this does mean i can't use black propaganda however. Most of my inspiration came from Sanahtlig's guide, so thanks for that; it was and is very insightfull!

    *Im aware both Mars and Arthur apply an A-frame attack up; however Arthur can also apply a D-frame attack up with Caledfwlch (the weapon); which i intend on using.

    Current SSR's:
    Fire: Svarog
    Water: Ryu-Oh
    Light: Sol

    Current Roster core: Svarog (Fire), Hephaestus(Fire), Sol (Light, i need a healer), Ryu-Oh(Water)/Amon(Fire).
    Soul: Mordred
    Eidolon: Cthugha

    I don't know what to prioritize in my position for the miracle ticket, I'm however aware that the combination of Ryu-Oh and Sol is not good, and I should probably prioritize finding a replacement for Ryu-Oh.

    Personally I think I should pick either Ares or Mars as I have Sol as a healer and need some more offense; to replace Ryu-Oh. Both Ryu-Oh and Hephaestus apply def down (A-frame 15%, my Ryu-Oh is not lvl 75 so it is not 20% yet) and both Mordred and Ryu-Oh can add an extra ball to the max charge turn.

    Plz don't suggest Uriel, I understand how insanely good she is; I just dont like how she looks and feel I can ''substitute'' her, to some degree, with Ares. Sorry just my personal preference

    TLDR
    Fire team:
    Svarog(Fire)
    Hephaestus(Fire)
    Sol(Light)
    Ryu-Oh(Water)/Amon(Fire)
    Mordred as soul.

    Mordred will be replaced with Arthur.

    Should i use my miracle ticket on: Acala?, Amaterasu, Ares or Mars? Im looking to replace either Sol or Ryu-Oh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zendo View Post
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    I want to use Arthur eventually as my soul --
    Why Arthur...? Please don't. She's a pretty awful Soul unless you can use her instant-burst gimmick, and I doubt that you will ever be able to do that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zendo View Post
    *Im aware both Mars and Arthur apply an A-frame attack up; however Arthur can also apply a D-frame attack up with Caledfwlch (the weapon); which i intend on using.
    Why...? Please don't. HP Soul weapons may have better effects, but outside of Dartagnan (or Shingen for a very, very specific purpose), please don't use them.

    If you absolutely must use the Arthur for some reason, get the offensive weapon. Yeah, -1 CD for the nuke is nowhere near as good, but 30% Elemental is SO much better than 30% HP that it will not pose a problem. Better yet, just get and use Herc Axe or Shingen Lance like everyone else.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zendo View Post
    Plz don't suggest Uriel, I understand how insanely good she is;
    No you don't!
    Quote Originally Posted by Zendo View Post
    I just dont like how she looks and feel I can ''substitute'' her, to some degree, with Ares.
    No you can't! They don't even fulfill the same role!!!

    But if you don't want Uriel, fine. Just know that you're making a mistake, but fine.

    What should you get then? It sounds like you want to commit to Fire, so you'll be using it off-element? In that case, I wouldn't recommend Dakki. She is pretty damn good against Wind, but not quite MT worthy for a team that will fight against everything. Amaterasu completes Fire with her amazing debuffs, but the debuff-doomsayers don't like it. And Amaterasu isn't very impressive without her debuffs. Ares and Acala are NOT Miracle Ticket worthy; they're decent, but that's all.

    That leaves Mars. Debuff-doomsayers would disagree of course, but at least Heph+Mars+Sniper Shot would allow you to get reach -50% Def. And SS shouldn't even miss much after Mars' debuff.

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    Herc>Arthur.
    you can't sub Ares for Uriel, completely different levels of damage.

    Miracle ticket thread-fireteam.jpg

    if you want a paradigm shift in damage output get Uriel, take it from someone who chose to mtix Mars instead of Uriel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    Why Arthur...? Please don't. She's a pretty awful Soul unless you can use her instant-burst gimmick, and I doubt that you will ever be able to do that.
    Fair enough, I was under the impression that Arthur was a good soul. But that is me misinforming myself through inaccurate information. As I'm typing this I made sure to read your ''which Soul should I use?'' thread*, which was very insightfull!; so thanks for making that thread!

    My account is less than a month old so shingen is ways away, therefore I will aim at getting sniper shot from D'Artagnan first and then get Hercules with her axe.

    *(Sorry made an account today to ask this question, I dont know how to properly link to that thread as I feel that credit is due).

    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    But if you don't want Uriel, fine. Just know that you're making a mistake, but fine.
    I am aware that this is a mistake and I am perfectly fine with making that mistake. It basically boils down to: ''I dont like how she looks and sounds, so Im not using her''. I know thats a very very very weak argument, and thats probably still an understatement, especially from a min/max perspective. But not everything has to be optimized for me, I just want to have fun with a fire team that I like the look of.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    What should you get then? It sounds like you want to commit to Fire, so you'll be using it off-element?
    Yes and yes. I currently don't have the resources to make various elemental teams, I do have a light team (Sukunahikona, Aurora, Diana, Sol - Hecatonchires) which is OK I think. But I just enjoy fire more, mainly the aesthetics. Therefore I want to commit to that and have light as a 2nd or something. I have to stress though, I don't care if my light team improves I just want a cool and good fire team.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    In that case, I wouldn't recommend Dakki. She is pretty damn good against Wind, but not quite MT worthy for a team that will fight against everything.
    Fair enough. Because I would like a fire team that will fight against everything. If I can be so bold and ask you for your insights on this matter Slashley I'd greatly appreciate it, as you seem like a very knowledgable person to me.

    If I were to create a good fire team against everything, and Im willing to use MT to get them, I really dont care if it isnt worth the MT or if the kamihime is only decent. In what order should i spend my MT on certain kamihime, under the assumption that Im using Hercules (probably with sniper shot), Svarog and Hephaestus? And eventually possible replacing Hephaestus, even though she is amazing.

    Im personally thinking --> Mars, Acala (I just like the way she looks, for me thats enough reason to get her), Ares/Amaterasu???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zendo View Post
    --
    I am aware that this is a mistake and I am perfectly fine with making that mistake. It basically boils down to: ''I dont like how she looks and sounds, so Im not using her''. I know thats a very very very weak argument, and thats probably still an understatement, especially from a min/max perspective. But not everything has to be optimized for me, I just want to have fun with a fire team that I like the look of.
    Yeah, fair enough. Waifu reasons are plenty good reasons. Or I guess... unwaifu reasons here?

    And allow me to correct myself: "But if you don't want Uriel, fine. Just know that you're making a mistake from a min/max standpoint, but fine."
    Quote Originally Posted by Zendo View Post
    -- Therefore I want to commit to that and have light as a 2nd or something. I have to stress though, I don't care if my light team improves I just want a cool and good fire team.
    Just to note, Light is going to be absolutely crazy in the year to come. There's plenty of fantastic Light SSRs to MT right now (Michael, Tish) and every MT for the next year will bring some CRAZY good Light Hime into the tickets.

    So from a min/max perspective, focusing on Light would be far better. Fire needs a secondary team to handle Water fights, and for worthy MTs Fire only has Svarog/Uriel, and maybe Mars/Amaterasu - the problem with these two is that their worth is entirely in their debuffs, and debuff doomsayers have a reason for their actions.

    Just so that you know.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zendo View Post
    And eventually possible replacing Hephaestus, even though she is amazing.
    Replacing Heph will be plenty possible starting from you having Herc Axe at 1-Star. It makes things a bit awkward, but plenty possible. Though, I wouldn't replace her until you have a SSR to replace her with.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zendo View Post
    Im personally thinking --> Mars, Acala (I just like the way she looks, for me thats enough reason to get her), Ares/Amaterasu???
    Honestly I'd say Mars > Amaterasu > Ares > Acala, but if you want, you can get them in another order for waifu reasons.

    The bigger problem is that starting from next MT, you'll have better targets for MT. SSR Fire Amon is pretty good, I believe. Upcoming Fire Mammon might also be worth it. Vajaun/Vahagn might be in next MT as well, but if not, then in the one after that. To my understanding she's absolutely THE Fire Hime to get outside of Haruhi, but Haruhi won't be available in MTs.

    Point being, if you want Acala in MT for waifu reasons, this might be your best chance. But if you don't have Mars, you'll struggle with debuffs.

    And finally, please don't plan exactly for MTs. Only focus on the MT of right now. Sometimes, gacha goes crazy and gives you exactly what you want, after all. So yeah, leave your plans open.

    On a side note, just to be sure, let me link this:
    The encyclopedia in Sanahtlig's toolbox gives you a quick peek on all the upcoming SSRs.

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