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  1. #1291

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    First a small disclaimer to my advice so you can put it in perspective. I've been playing this game for a little over over 1.5 month now, so I lack some in-depth information that other users might have. Therefore I will refrain from giving such advice and leave that up to others. Next up I haven't researched Wind/Thunder teams so I'll leave that to other people to comment on. Also many people have mentioned that Dark teams are in a bad spot right now, so that would probably not be your best pick. But here is my opinion for what it is worth.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    So after a rather long break I'm slowly getting back into this game and I have no Idea where the meta is going so a bit help would be nice.
    I have two questions for you, that I think are fairly important for the potential use of a MT:
    1. Which teams do you most enjoy playing with, or does this not matter?
    2. What SSR eidolons do you have?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Fire: Yamaraja, Mars, Svarog, Ares and Ra.
    Honestly this team is probably my strongest one so I don't think Mtixing a Fire chara would be the wisest choice.
    I think this is fairly solid yeha. But if you want to invest into this more, it would probably be either Uriel (REALLY INSANE DAMAGE, I even used caps!) or Amaterasu (Core).

    Many people have said that Uriel is busted, although lacking in the bust department (sorry couldn't help myself), two weeks ago I was looking for advice for my Fire team. And Uriel is just insane with her bursts.

    Amaterasu applies ATK & DEF Down (B Frame -20%), Blindness with, I believe, a 80% probability. And is considered core for fire. That said Debuff Doomsayers would probably not like this decision, as her value is in her debuffs. She would probably replace Yamaraja, since she only applies a ATK & DEF down (B Frame -15%).

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Water: SSRNike, Gabriel, Shiva, Lakshmi
    Really solid but I feel this can use something
    First of all something important to note:
    SSR Nike: Applies DEF down (A Frame -15%, at lvl 55)
    Gabriel: Applies DEF down (A Frame -12%, at lvl 45)

    You have some overlap here and you would benefit from some other debuffs, debuff doomsayers wouldnt like this however. I dont know who would be better but here are some options for you to consider to replace Gabriel:

    Snow Angel Raphael (Defensive):
    1. Extends stun, ATK & DEF down (B Frame -15%)
    2. DMG taken down (30%, 2 turns)
    3. Removes an active orb from the overdrive meter (Once every 6 turns)

    Cthulu (Offensive):
    1. Removes an active orb from the overdrive meter and, if succesful, increases Burst Gauge by 15% (Once every 8 turns)
    2. DEF down (C Frame -20%)
    3. Applies Dizzyness and ATK down (A Frame -15%) and increases her ATK (C Frame +15%)

    Ryo-Oh also applies DEF down (A Frame -20%), yet she is very strong overall. However you wouldnt benefit as much with her since you have SSR Nike. Aphrodite would fill SSR Nike's role better I believe; you would suffer from diminishing marginal returns with these two however. I think Asherah would be worth mentioning as well, however I believe you would benefit more from either Snow Angel Raphael or Cthulu.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Light: Gabriel and Shamash
    My crappiest Element with crappiest Grid for me since I have atrocius luck with light himes. I think this one I can't help anymore lol
    I agree!

    Hope this helped you!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    Sooo... for the first time in a long, long while, I actually have no idea who to spend my MT on. This goliath of a post is mostly to sort out my own thoughts, but if anyone can chime in with some advice, that'd be all the better.
    After having read all of that first of all, damn thats a lot of SSR kamihime haha; from my perspective at least. But maybe you should look at things from a different perspective.

    First of all, do you have to get the MT and spend it?

    Secondly, you mention that you like Thunder the most. I kinda based my MT on waifu reasons and min/max considerations. You are in a position where you have a lot more options. Thus in a sense you are more free in spending your MT for waifu purposes, if thats what you want. Why not just get Marduk or Dian because you like Thunder? And dont worry about min/max, you are probably at a point where you can afford to neglect that in some sense; but min/max when you have to in hard content. Plus it adds some versatility to keep playing with your Thunder team regardless of element, if the content allows it! That said Marduk looks like a solid waifu and you could probably build a team around her, whilst neglecting some min/max.

    Lastly, do whatever your feelings tell you to do. Im a min/max person at heart as well in other games and D&D. However sometimes it's refreshing to not min/max and go with what you prefer. If that is a Thunder go with it, I have, I think at least, the same feelings when it comes to Fire. Its about having fun as well, and having characters that you like the look of help; me at least, dont know if this is applicable to you.

    Hope this helped to at least get a different perspective!

  3. #1293
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    So after a rather long break I'm slowly getting back into this game and I have no Idea where the meta is going so a bit help would be nice. For my SSR Himes here they are:

    Fire: Yamaraja, Mars, Svarog, Ares and Ra.
    Honestly this team is probably my strongest one so I don't think Mtixing a Fire chara would be the wisest choice.

    Water: SSRNike, Gabriel, Shiva, Lakshmi
    Really solid but I feel this can use something

    Wind: Gaia, Set, Arianrod, Aether
    Really thinking about Mtixing Cybelle for this Team since I heard she was amazing.

    Thunder: Marduk, Thor, Tyr, SSR Baal
    All over the place and not sure if I should invest in this since like others said: Thunder Aphro or bust

    Dark: Satan, Chernobog, Samael.
    Really underdeveloped and thinking about adding Osiris.

    Light: Gabriel and Shamash
    My crappiest Element with crappiest Grid for me since I have atrocius luck with light himes. I think this one I can't help anymore lol

    Thx for every input. Lookong forward to them
    What you need:

    Fire: Uriel, unless you're heavily whaling fire and can easily hit 2m burst cap with other himes... in which case, FAmon.
    Water: Vohu
    Wind: Cu, Cybelle is pretty nice right now, but falls off in usefulness in the long run (when Azazel AW), her time is running out.
    Thunder: Dian or Raiko, TAphro isn't available... yet. You have a pretty decent team here, TAphro can make thunder op, but not required to work.
    Dark: Don't invest without Anubis, just let RNG do its thing.
    Light: Michael makes the biggest difference, but you do need a lot (so don't bother either)

    If I had to pick, probably stick with fire to make it really good or one of the thunder option to counter water content, which fire is weak against...

    ... also, neither Gabriels are SSRs.

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    First of all a small rant. Sigh, a few days ago there was a gacha where Fire had boosted droprates; Im a massive sucker for Fire. I spend 9k magic jewels and got nothing Fire related; the closest I got was getting something red. Instead I got Fluffy (Managarmr, 100% light Eidolon), Im not complaining since I have an ok Light grid and ok Light kamihime. So this changed some things for me for this MT. Also I should note that I out of spite spend 300 magic jewels on the SSR Mamon gacha and got her on the first try; so W00T!

    Now my question is two-pronged: ''In which team to invest Fire or Light?'' and ''Who to get?''.

    Fire

    Eidolon: Cthugha (30% ATK, 10% HP)
    Current roster: Svarog, Hephaestus, Youkai Empress Mammon, Mars
    I have a good weapon grid for this element.

    Best choice this MT would probably be Amaterasu.

    Important notes:
    1. I refuse to use Uriel because of Waifu reasons.
    2. Next MT Im probably picking up Vahagn, now having Amaterasu would mean Im more versatile.

    Some side questions for this element:
    1. Would it be worth to spend eidolon orbs to buff Ctugha?
    2. Should I save my eidolon orbs for Kaiser?
    3. How good is Fire Mammon? (I understand that she becomes more powerfull with more turns, but legit Burn Execution (The damage based on Whip's Heat Lvl) is insane; and she is a pretty good waifu)

    Light

    Eidolon: Fluffy (100% ATK)
    Notable kamihime:
    SSR: Sol, Takeminakata
    SR: Attar, Diana, Durga, Forseti (Waifu) & Sukunahikona
    Current roster: Sol, Takeminakata (cuz SSR rly), Diana (DEF down A Frame -15%), Forseti (Her abilities are very utility focussed, ATK down ((A Frame -15% & Extends overdrive meter by 1) I like her art)
    My weapon grid is lacking, I should probably farm the Light raid boss for the weapon to compensate.

    Best choice this MT would probably be either Michael or Light Tsukuyomi.

    Some side questions for this element:
    1. Fluffy her ATK boost is based on Light eidolon equipped. I have Abdou and Hecatonchires as other Light eidolons. Now my question: is it correct that her base ATK boost is 80% and the rest is boosted by Light eidolon equipped or?
    2. With this current roster who should I sub out for either Michael or Light Tsukuyomi. This is probably gonna depend on the situation however. A better question would be: ''subbing who for who will yield the highest marginal increase?''.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zendo View Post
    Some side questions for this element:
    1. Fluffy her ATK boost is based on Light eidolon equipped. I have Abdou and Hecatonchires as other Light eidolons. Now my question: is it correct that her base ATK boost is 80% and the rest is boosted by Light eidolon equipped or?
    2. With this current roster who should I sub out for either Michael or Light Tsukuyomi. This is probably gonna depend on the situation however. A better question would be: ''subbing who for who will yield the highest marginal increase?''.
    With Fluffy, you if you're going to min/max you're going to need to invest into Light. It's either Michael or Tish, probably Michael? Tish is crazy too, though...

    1. Yes, 80% base. +4% per equipped Light Eidolon.
    2. Drop Forseti. Forseti is an amazing SR, but so is Diana with her Def debuff.

  6. #1296
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zendo View Post
    First a small disclaimer to my advice so you can put it in perspective. I've been playing this game for a little over over 1.5 month now, so I lack some in-depth information that other users might have. Therefore I will refrain from giving such advice and leave that up to others. Next up I haven't researched Wind/Thunder teams so I'll leave that to other people to comment on. Also many people have mentioned that Dark teams are in a bad spot right now, so that would probably not be your best pick. But here is my opinion for what it is worth.



    I have two questions for you, that I think are fairly important for the potential use of a MT:
    1. Which teams do you most enjoy playing with, or does this not matter?
    2. What SSR eidolons do you have?



    I think this is fairly solid yeha. But if you want to invest into this more, it would probably be either Uriel (REALLY INSANE DAMAGE, I even used caps!) or Amaterasu (Core).

    Many people have said that Uriel is busted, although lacking in the bust department (sorry couldn't help myself), two weeks ago I was looking for advice for my Fire team. And Uriel is just insane with her bursts.

    Amaterasu applies ATK & DEF Down (B Frame -20%), Blindness with, I believe, a 80% probability. And is considered core for fire. That said Debuff Doomsayers would probably not like this decision, as her value is in her debuffs. She would probably replace Yamaraja, since she only applies a ATK & DEF down (B Frame -15%).



    First of all something important to note:
    SSR Nike: Applies DEF down (A Frame -15%, at lvl 55)
    Gabriel: Applies DEF down (A Frame -12%, at lvl 45)

    You have some overlap here and you would benefit from some other debuffs, debuff doomsayers wouldnt like this however. I dont know who would be better but here are some options for you to consider to replace Gabriel:

    Snow Angel Raphael (Defensive):
    1. Extends stun, ATK & DEF down (B Frame -15%)
    2. DMG taken down (30%, 2 turns)
    3. Removes an active orb from the overdrive meter (Once every 6 turns)

    Cthulu (Offensive):
    1. Removes an active orb from the overdrive meter and, if succesful, increases Burst Gauge by 15% (Once every 8 turns)
    2. DEF down (C Frame -20%)
    3. Applies Dizzyness and ATK down (A Frame -15%) and increases her ATK (C Frame +15%)

    Ryo-Oh also applies DEF down (A Frame -20%), yet she is very strong overall. However you wouldnt benefit as much with her since you have SSR Nike. Aphrodite would fill SSR Nike's role better I believe; you would suffer from diminishing marginal returns with these two however. I think Asherah would be worth mentioning as well, however I believe you would benefit more from either Snow Angel Raphael or Cthulu.



    I agree!

    Hope this helped you!
    Wow thanks alot. Also I derped hard and somehow managed to mix up gabriel for Raphael in both cases. So let's see if Uriel really is that busted xD

  7. #1297
    Quote Originally Posted by Zendo View Post
    Now my question is two-pronged: ''In which team to invest Fire or Light?'' and ''Who to get?''.
    Go with light, it will be much stronger in the long run if you have fluffy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zendo View Post
    Light

    Eidolon: Fluffy (100% ATK)
    Notable kamihime:
    SSR: Sol, Takeminakata
    SR: Attar, Diana, Durga, Forseti (Waifu) & Sukunahikona
    Current roster: Sol, Takeminakata (cuz SSR rly), Diana (DEF down A Frame -15%), Forseti (Her abilities are very utility focussed, ATK down ((A Frame -15% & Extends overdrive meter by 1) I like her art)
    My weapon grid is lacking, I should probably farm the Light raid boss for the weapon to compensate.

    Best choice this MT would probably be either Michael or Light Tsukuyomi.
    I'm with Slashley, Michael and Tish are the ones you want. LT is good, but she will be obsolete soon, like, in a matter of days when Lugh comes out (not on current mtix though, which completely messed up my planning x_x) and when Iris comes out a couple months from now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zendo View Post
    Some side questions for this element:
    1. Fluffy her ATK boost is based on Light eidolon equipped. I have Abdou and Hecatonchires as other Light eidolons. Now my question: is it correct that her base ATK boost is 80% and the rest is boosted by Light eidolon equipped or?
    2. With this current roster who should I sub out for either Michael or Light Tsukuyomi. This is probably gonna depend on the situation however. A better question would be: ''subbing who for who will yield the highest marginal increase?''.
    1. Correct, base is 80% and each light sub eido adds 4%. It is advisable to go for stats and useful actives instead of trying to get fluffy to 100% though. The incremental gain in elemental isn't worth sacrificing base stats for unless you have a really strong grid already.
    2. Drop Forseti and use Diana unless you're going against debuff resistant stuff, in which case I would still drop Forseti and use Durga if you are not AAB-ing (Durga is fast but one of her abilities is a 2-turn rampage, which requires planning.) If you hate Durga 'cos of her RNG skills, use Sukunahikona for debuff resistant stuff. I only use Forseti when I can't Ex BP for whatever reason or she's my only way to hit 50% atk down if I needed that for some reason. Usually for GO where I have to use non-SSR or soul used to deal with an annoying mechanic or something.
    Last edited by dreamlitz; 06-17-2019 at 05:18 AM. Reason: typo

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    Best choice this MT would probably be Amaterasu.

    Important notes:
    1. I refuse to use Uriel because of Waifu reasons.
    2. Next MT Im probably picking up Vahagn, now having Amaterasu would mean Im more versatile.
    Amaterasu is already falling out of the meta if Uriel is not an option Fire Amon would be best.

    1. Would it be worth to spend eidolon orbs to buff Ctugha?
    No, Elemental attack>Character Attack get Andramalech instead

    2. Should I save my eidolon orbs for Kaiser?
    Yes but you should get Tiamat(stat block) and a good primary eido(Andra,Amaru,Icarus) for every element for which you dont have one yet first.

  9. #1299
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zendo View Post
    Important notes:
    1. I refuse to use Uriel because of Waifu reasons.
    2. Next MT Im probably picking up Vahagn, now having Amaterasu would mean Im more versatile.
    You want to get Fire Freyr over Vahagn imo.
    Vahagn is nice and really strong but tbh you will hit the 2mio cap way easier with fire Freyr.
    And she also has 30% fire rst down. She is the fastest fire KH up to date and she can hit like a truck too.

    Furthermore Uriel will be out of the meta, mostly for fire bakas who can reach the 2mio cap.
    If you think you wont hit the cap next year, then please just get Uriel.

    Otherwise Fire Mammon is the imo the 2nd best choice to MT for fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post

    Otherwise Fire Mammon is the imo the 2nd best choice to MT for fire.
    I meant Fire Amon and not fire Mammon. My fault.

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