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    First of all a small rant. Sigh, a few days ago there was a gacha where Fire had boosted droprates; Im a massive sucker for Fire. I spend 9k magic jewels and got nothing Fire related; the closest I got was getting something red. Instead I got Fluffy (Managarmr, 100% light Eidolon), Im not complaining since I have an ok Light grid and ok Light kamihime. So this changed some things for me for this MT. Also I should note that I out of spite spend 300 magic jewels on the SSR Mamon gacha and got her on the first try; so W00T!

    Now my question is two-pronged: ''In which team to invest Fire or Light?'' and ''Who to get?''.

    Fire

    Eidolon: Cthugha (30% ATK, 10% HP)
    Current roster: Svarog, Hephaestus, Youkai Empress Mammon, Mars
    I have a good weapon grid for this element.

    Best choice this MT would probably be Amaterasu.

    Important notes:
    1. I refuse to use Uriel because of Waifu reasons.
    2. Next MT Im probably picking up Vahagn, now having Amaterasu would mean Im more versatile.

    Some side questions for this element:
    1. Would it be worth to spend eidolon orbs to buff Ctugha?
    2. Should I save my eidolon orbs for Kaiser?
    3. How good is Fire Mammon? (I understand that she becomes more powerfull with more turns, but legit Burn Execution (The damage based on Whip's Heat Lvl) is insane; and she is a pretty good waifu)

    Light

    Eidolon: Fluffy (100% ATK)
    Notable kamihime:
    SSR: Sol, Takeminakata
    SR: Attar, Diana, Durga, Forseti (Waifu) & Sukunahikona
    Current roster: Sol, Takeminakata (cuz SSR rly), Diana (DEF down A Frame -15%), Forseti (Her abilities are very utility focussed, ATK down ((A Frame -15% & Extends overdrive meter by 1) I like her art)
    My weapon grid is lacking, I should probably farm the Light raid boss for the weapon to compensate.

    Best choice this MT would probably be either Michael or Light Tsukuyomi.

    Some side questions for this element:
    1. Fluffy her ATK boost is based on Light eidolon equipped. I have Abdou and Hecatonchires as other Light eidolons. Now my question: is it correct that her base ATK boost is 80% and the rest is boosted by Light eidolon equipped or?
    2. With this current roster who should I sub out for either Michael or Light Tsukuyomi. This is probably gonna depend on the situation however. A better question would be: ''subbing who for who will yield the highest marginal increase?''.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zendo View Post
    Some side questions for this element:
    1. Fluffy her ATK boost is based on Light eidolon equipped. I have Abdou and Hecatonchires as other Light eidolons. Now my question: is it correct that her base ATK boost is 80% and the rest is boosted by Light eidolon equipped or?
    2. With this current roster who should I sub out for either Michael or Light Tsukuyomi. This is probably gonna depend on the situation however. A better question would be: ''subbing who for who will yield the highest marginal increase?''.
    With Fluffy, you if you're going to min/max you're going to need to invest into Light. It's either Michael or Tish, probably Michael? Tish is crazy too, though...

    1. Yes, 80% base. +4% per equipped Light Eidolon.
    2. Drop Forseti. Forseti is an amazing SR, but so is Diana with her Def debuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zendo View Post
    Now my question is two-pronged: ''In which team to invest Fire or Light?'' and ''Who to get?''.
    Go with light, it will be much stronger in the long run if you have fluffy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zendo View Post
    Light

    Eidolon: Fluffy (100% ATK)
    Notable kamihime:
    SSR: Sol, Takeminakata
    SR: Attar, Diana, Durga, Forseti (Waifu) & Sukunahikona
    Current roster: Sol, Takeminakata (cuz SSR rly), Diana (DEF down A Frame -15%), Forseti (Her abilities are very utility focussed, ATK down ((A Frame -15% & Extends overdrive meter by 1) I like her art)
    My weapon grid is lacking, I should probably farm the Light raid boss for the weapon to compensate.

    Best choice this MT would probably be either Michael or Light Tsukuyomi.
    I'm with Slashley, Michael and Tish are the ones you want. LT is good, but she will be obsolete soon, like, in a matter of days when Lugh comes out (not on current mtix though, which completely messed up my planning x_x) and when Iris comes out a couple months from now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zendo View Post
    Some side questions for this element:
    1. Fluffy her ATK boost is based on Light eidolon equipped. I have Abdou and Hecatonchires as other Light eidolons. Now my question: is it correct that her base ATK boost is 80% and the rest is boosted by Light eidolon equipped or?
    2. With this current roster who should I sub out for either Michael or Light Tsukuyomi. This is probably gonna depend on the situation however. A better question would be: ''subbing who for who will yield the highest marginal increase?''.
    1. Correct, base is 80% and each light sub eido adds 4%. It is advisable to go for stats and useful actives instead of trying to get fluffy to 100% though. The incremental gain in elemental isn't worth sacrificing base stats for unless you have a really strong grid already.
    2. Drop Forseti and use Diana unless you're going against debuff resistant stuff, in which case I would still drop Forseti and use Durga if you are not AAB-ing (Durga is fast but one of her abilities is a 2-turn rampage, which requires planning.) If you hate Durga 'cos of her RNG skills, use Sukunahikona for debuff resistant stuff. I only use Forseti when I can't Ex BP for whatever reason or she's my only way to hit 50% atk down if I needed that for some reason. Usually for GO where I have to use non-SSR or soul used to deal with an annoying mechanic or something.
    Last edited by dreamlitz; 06-17-2019 at 05:18 AM. Reason: typo

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    Best choice this MT would probably be Amaterasu.

    Important notes:
    1. I refuse to use Uriel because of Waifu reasons.
    2. Next MT Im probably picking up Vahagn, now having Amaterasu would mean Im more versatile.
    Amaterasu is already falling out of the meta if Uriel is not an option Fire Amon would be best.

    1. Would it be worth to spend eidolon orbs to buff Ctugha?
    No, Elemental attack>Character Attack get Andramalech instead

    2. Should I save my eidolon orbs for Kaiser?
    Yes but you should get Tiamat(stat block) and a good primary eido(Andra,Amaru,Icarus) for every element for which you dont have one yet first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zendo View Post
    Important notes:
    1. I refuse to use Uriel because of Waifu reasons.
    2. Next MT Im probably picking up Vahagn, now having Amaterasu would mean Im more versatile.
    You want to get Fire Freyr over Vahagn imo.
    Vahagn is nice and really strong but tbh you will hit the 2mio cap way easier with fire Freyr.
    And she also has 30% fire rst down. She is the fastest fire KH up to date and she can hit like a truck too.

    Furthermore Uriel will be out of the meta, mostly for fire bakas who can reach the 2mio cap.
    If you think you wont hit the cap next year, then please just get Uriel.

    Otherwise Fire Mammon is the imo the 2nd best choice to MT for fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post

    Otherwise Fire Mammon is the imo the 2nd best choice to MT for fire.
    I meant Fire Amon and not fire Mammon. My fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KitKat View Post
    Amaterasu is already falling out of the meta if Uriel is not an option Fire Amon would be best.
    Oh? Would you care to explain how so?
    I still haven't seen the debuff immune content that the debuff doomsayers have been warning us about, so Amaterasu seems perfectly fine by me. At least, for now.
    Quote Originally Posted by KitKat View Post
    No, Elemental attack>Character Attack
    This... isn't true. Character Atk and Elemental Atk are equally powerful, but you want more of the one you have less of. And if you're running with a Friend P2W Eidolons (which you will against any content that matters), an offensive Soul weapon (which you should) and elemental advantage (which you might), then Character > Elemental.
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Furthermore Uriel will be out of the meta, mostly for fire bakas who can reach the 2mio cap.
    If you think you wont hit the cap next year, then please just get Uriel.
    Reaching even 1.3m is a stretch for non-whales... I don't see any way that you reasonably reach even 1.6m, outside of owning Belial yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    Reaching even 1.3m is a stretch for non-whales... I don't see any way that you reasonably reach even 1.6m, outside of owning Belial yourself.
    I said a fire baka, which are mostly whales, who runs Ascalon+Mars spears in their grid and ofc Belial / Cerberus later.
    For example I am already hitting my current 1.6 mio cap off-ele and my grid isn't even done.

    For me Uriel will be useless later and I said if he isnt even near to hit the cap, he should get Uriel.

    Why do you ignore some details, which I already explained?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    I said a fire baka, which are mostly whales, --
    For example I am already hitting my current 1.6 mio cap off-ele and my grid isn't even done.
    --
    Why do you ignore some details, which I already explained?
    You live in a completely different reality from me it seems, that'd be why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    I said a fire baka, which are mostly whales, who runs Ascalon+Mars spears in their grid and ofc Belial / Cerberus later.
    For example I am already hitting my current 1.6 mio cap off-ele and my grid isn't even done.

    For me Uriel will be useless later and I said if he isnt even near to hit the cap, he should get Uriel.

    Why do you ignore some details, which I already explained?
    Pls don’t talk about whale meta when giving advice for a player that you are not know they are whale or not. And since when you had to whale to be allowed to main fire.

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