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  1. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    A post-buffs and awakened Uriel. Before those, Uriel was really bad.
    Well she doesn't have the bug that the dmm release of her had that made her burst dmg multiplier of a SR's instead of SSR bursts.
    She doesn't seem as bad as I originally thought she was... doing bursts equivalent to Sieg's seems pretty nice. And yea, I'm sure she gets better after AW.
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    I've honestly no idea who to choose with my miracle ticket.

    Fire I got

    Acala, Yamaraji (SSRs), Raguel, Ragaraji, and Agni/Nutaku (SRs)

    Dark I got

    Susanoo, Amon Unleashed (SSRs), Lu Bu (and two spots for any of the following -Beelzebub, Tsukuyomi, Eligos, Mereseger)

    Am currently Using Modred as my soul.


    I do also have Nike Unleashed, and Gaia, although I don't think I can build a team with either of them.

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    Laventale is cracking down on Miracle ticket help threads, so let's focus discussion here on optimal builds for each element. Relic weapons change the landscape going forward, and I'd like to see more discussion on how this impacts long-term build plans. It seems like damage-focused builds with Shingen, Hercules, and Morgan (generally with Provisional Forest) are very popular on DMM.
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    Closed this thread by mistake, sowy. Now it's open again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanahtlig View Post
    Laventale is cracking down on Miracle ticket help threads, so let's focus discussion here on optimal builds for each element. Relic weapons change the landscape going forward, and I'd like to see more discussion on how this impacts long-term build plans. It seems like damage-focused builds with Shingen, Hercules, and Morgan (generally with Provisional Forest) are very popular on DMM.
    After the introduction of Ashirat and water ragna... Is it safe to say that Hercules with Provisional Forest and assault relic (or maybe Arthur, I didn't do the maths) with SSR Nike Water Raphy Ashirat Cthulhu and the 100% atk eidolon is essentially the best burst setup for water?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac View Post
    After the introduction of Ashirat and water ragna... Is it safe to say that Hercules with Provisional Forest and assault relic (or maybe Arthur, I didn't do the maths) with SSR Nike Water Raphy Ashirat Cthulhu and the 100% atk eidolon is essentially the best burst setup for water?
    Question: Why not just run Shingen if you already have Ashirat? Herc with relic weapon has the advantage that she can reliably use PF, but if you can provide the burst gauge up with Ashirat, Shingen can do that too and you could make use of her relic weapon to increase the PF effect. Def down should be no issue either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blubbergott View Post
    Question: Why not just run Shingen if you already have Ashirat? Herc with relic weapon has the advantage that she can reliably use PF, but if you can provide the burst gauge up with Ashirat, Shingen can do that too and you could make use of her relic weapon to increase the PF effect. Def down should be no issue either.
    Ah yes, forgot that Ashirat technically already helps Shingen bypass the burst drain. Def break is a non issue, 15% A frame from Nike, 15% B frame from Snow Raphy and 20% Cthulhu C frame. Is that the most powerful setup that exists if you run Shingen with Arthur's buff?

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    I'd actually run Shingen with VoF or Black Propaganda as EX. That's going to give you more utility than a small damage buff. Whether to pick up the HP or ATK weapon with Athirat is controversial. The ATK weapon lets you Burst immediately and gives you the full benefit of Athirat's Burst buff and Exceed skill, plus additional elemental attack. The HP weapon maximizes Burst damage and grants a hefty HP boost, but reduces non-Burst damage and delays the Burst by 1T. Some argue that the HP weapon will just get you to the damage cap quicker, but that appears to apply only under very specific circumstances (e.g., access to eidolons most players will never have + elemental advantage).

    I gave Accessory Quest Rank 5 some thought. There's a theoretical alternative to a damage build: a total or near-total mitigation build. This leverages damage cuts and elemental resistance to tank the final boss's overdrive. With this strategy it's possible to survive for up to 21T--enough for 3-4 Bursts. Stacking Joan + an additional -40% damage cut and -50% ATK might be enough to tank at least 1 overdrive, but if not this can be stacked with a source of elemental resistance (e.g., a Kaiser dragon) for total mitigation. All elements with a damage cut (e.g., Water, Thunder, Wind, Dark) should be capable of running this. In addition, Joan's HP Relic weapon increases her damage cut to -60%, which could stack with other sources to reach -90% (with the appropriate Kaiser) against an arbitrary element for Fire and Light teams also.
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    I don't recommend fire Amaterasu for using Micracle ticket . She is nice to have, but her main task is applying B-Frame debuff. Fire has a R Kami with 20% B-Frame debuff, so u can use her instead and wait for a random ama draw through jewels or tickets. The Problem is that ama's weapon is pretty useless, when u get a dupe weapon, u have almost no use for it.
    At the moment(2nd miracle), Uriel is a bad choice too, because she may get awakened in about 7-8 months, so u have enough time trying get her for free. For 3rd or 4th miracle Uriel could be an option, if u still need to get her.
    Ares is a good choice for 2nd miracle, if u want a fire kami. She will get awakened soon, and her weapon(atk skill) will also get final LB, once the option is available. so more dupe weapons through jewels or tickets later wont hurt u.

    Another recommendation is Thor. AW Thor is your best friend, when you have weak teams but still want to join a top union. AW Thor is used for stunlocking the union raid boss, so much higher boss level can be reached. Union raids will become an important source for free jewels once ranking will be released. In a top union, u will benefit from Union ranking reward and personal ranking reward, because pp grinding in highly active union is much easier. With more jewels, u can pull more Kamis, the Investition is worth for long-term. At the moment, there aren't many Thor-users, so its better to have Thor early than late. I have to mention, that Thor is only useful, when you also plan to work your butt off during union events. If you don't care about ranking, then forget Thor and focus on building your main team instead.

    If you want one single team to clean all contents without trouble, then i recommend light. Light can do everything due to its incredible durability. There are also many event weapons for light.
    Unlike water and Dark, there are only 2 good SSR for light, so it isn't hard to make a decision which kami should be the core. Sol and Light Tsukuyomi are enough. Remember that, Light will help you cleaning solo contents, but wont help you gaining mvp or in any other contents when damage output is needed. Light is just easy to build according to the weapon grid and Kamis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fucka View Post
    I don't recommend fire Amaterasu for using Micracle ticket . She is nice to have, but her main task is applying B-Frame debuff. Fire has a R Kami with 20% B-Frame debuff, so u can use her instead and wait for a random ama draw through jewels or tickets. The Problem is that ama's weapon is pretty useless, when u get a dupe weapon, u have almost no use for it.
    At the moment(2nd miracle), Uriel is a bad choice too, because she may get awakened in about 7-8 months, so u have enough time trying get her for free. For 3rd or 4th miracle Uriel could be an option, if u still need to get her.
    Ares is a good choice for 2nd miracle, if u want a fire kami. She will get awakened soon, and her weapon(atk skill) will also get final LB, once the option is available. so more dupe weapons through jewels or tickets later wont hurt u.
    If I have Ares, Ama and Daji, what would you recommend me?
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