Thread: Miracle ticket Guide

Originally Posted by Laventale

I have both Raiko and Brahma, setting Mammon aside, which Thunder hime should I care about?

Pretty much none.

Tyr is good until Brahma awakening, but only because Thunder is so _starved_ for decent SSRs. After Brahma Awakens, Tyr probably can't fit into a Thunder team.
Thor is great if you're interested in try-harding Union content. Her Awakened form Paralyze is a requirement for soloing extreme level Union fights. Otherwise, she's a slot machine. Are you feeling lucky (punk)? Thor can single-handedly win you fights when her Paralyze lands. Which is... not often. Not even with 6% Affliction Accessories and Astraea's debuff-.
Sol might not be a Thunder Hime, but she might as well be. If there's ever content where you want to run Thunder heals, Sol is what you do. Thunder has difficulty affording to run Andromeda, after all. On DMM to this day, there's one limited time SSR healer for Thunder and one raid-SR, whose heals are between Nike and Brynhildr.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Pretty much none.

Tyr is good until Brahma awakening, but only because Thunder is so _starved_ for decent SSRs. After Brahma Awakens, Tyr probably can't fit into a Thunder team.
Thor is great if you're interested in try-harding Union content. Her Awakened form Paralyze is a requirement for soloing extreme level Union fights. Otherwise, she's a slot machine. Are you feeling lucky (punk)? Thor can single-handedly win you fights when her Paralyze lands. Which is... not often. Not even with 6% Affliction Accessories and Astraea's debuff-.
Sol might not be a Thunder Hime, but she might as well be. If there's ever content where you want to run Thunder heals, Sol is what you do. Thunder has difficulty affording to run Andromeda, after all. On DMM to this day, there's one limited time SSR healer for Thunder and one raid-SR, whose heals are between Nike and Brynhildr.

What about Baal U? I've heard that she, with Mammon, is the turning point of Thunder from being a shit tier element to being almost meta.

Baal, Mammon and Athena are not available in this ticket. So I didn't say a word about them.

Mammon is obviously super good. -20% C frame fixes a lot of Thunder's debuff problems, and she gains a whopping 8% Assault per Snatch stack on the enemy. If you're running 120% Assault, that means she does ~33% more damage than your other Hime at 9 stacks. Also, with just a couple of stacks, her third skill will hit the 700k cap easily to my knowledge. So that's 700k damage every 6 turns, basically available from turn1 if you run Dartagnan. Mammon is the reason why Thunder runs Dartagnan with Charles Blast. Although you lose 30% Elemental attack - which is a big deal - you hit Def cap with just Dartagnan and Mammon. In addition, you NEED Dartagnan to get Mammon going. Mammon has her own Snatch3, but without Dartagnan passive... well, you've probably ran Snatch3 on non-thief Souls yourself, right? How did going past 5 stacks go for you? Very, very badly. And finally, Thunder gets fuck-all HP weapons (Ygg Spear, Mastema Staff with garbage stats, one dual-skill we don't have yet) but currently has FOUR Gluttony Guns in DMM, so the HP from Charles Blast is certainly very welcome. Sadly, the second skill on the guns is Crit... makes Thunder a beast against Water I guess, but not a very universal element.

Athena is probably the best Hime in the game... against Water. If you run your Thunder team against Water ONLY, such as Belial Fire mains, Athena might be good enough to spend a Miracle Ticket on. Maybe even over Mammon? Not sure. Anyway, Athena has a -40% party damage cut against Water on a short 5 turn CD, can Guard the party for 1 turn like Gaia can. She's certainly no Gaia however, as she's limited against against Water. And she does far more damage than Gaia, as whenever she takes even 0 Water damage, she gets a 60% Elemental attack buff for 2 turns. That means that if you're running 90% Elemental against Water (which isn't even possible when Athena is released without two stars in Thunderbird(s), she'll do 25% more damage for the next two turns.

I don't know if SSR Baal will be available in the next Miracle Ticket. Even if she is, I don't understand her appeal. Nobody on these forums have ever explained why she'd be good, though many have been like "r u an idiot baal is a god huehuehuehue", which... hasn't impressed me. Anyway, Baal has a whopping 30% Thunder Resist- debuff, which means that she and Mammon alone hit Def cap. The problem? Baal's debuff lasts for a pathetic 90 seconds. It's also on a whopping 8t cooldown. She also has a a CD reset, which also resets her 4x damage nuke, but also at 8 turn CD it doesn't really solve your debuff babying problems.
So really, I only see two advantages of SSR Baal:
1. You can drop Dartagnan. This means that you can run a more common meta build like Shingen or Herc. Thanks to Raiko, you can always make sure that Provisional Forest works for these two no matter what kind of build you want with them. However, there's two problems with this: one, you'll take a shitton more damage due to only having -15% Atk debuff (down from -45%) and Mammon turns into just a plain debuffer without Snatch stacks.
2. Thor. Supposedly lowered elemental resistance gives your debuffs better chance to land, so a whopping 30% should help Paralyze a lot, right...? Still, I doubt that you'll hit 100% even with Astraea, so how good this actually is is a mystery to me.

Either case, I don't see any point in SSR Baal for anyone who isn't far, far above the content they're doing. Like whales. If you can easily oneshot stuff because of your ridiculous base stats, Baal's short debuff and the massive loss of survival ability won't matter to you. This would easily build a reputation for Baal because the juiciest of whales would run her, people watch the videos and go "omg baal so gud!!!" even though it's not a realistic scenario for normal players.

The 90s duration is also probably less of an issue for DMM players in Japan. I expect them to have lower latency/less time needed per turn than us.
If we fast forward a year, that -30% thunder resist should also make it easier for Awakened Tyr to stick Lock On onto the enemy.

Ok so I'd like some recommendations since I don't know much about the game right now or even worse how it's gonna be in the future:

First of all I got an account with:
WATER: Ryu-Oh, Aphodite
WIND: Gaia, Odin

The second one:
WIND: Hastur, Titania, Jabberwock
FIRE: Mars

For the first account I've been grinding and grinding but even after getting sniper shot and slowly but surely getting a full grid of SR assaults the damage doesn't really go up, also there are almost no people with water Eidos to help me and when I get someone they don't accept since I only have diabolos and a Ice Disaster to offer ^^
The good part is, this account already has lots of good SR himes, so basically I have a functioning Wind and Water team, two elements that compliment each other perfectly. Bad thing is I'm basically without Eidolon. But I know a water raid with a nice Eidolon is coming soon.

The second one is really a baby, but it's fun to play, peak damage is already looking promising, and I don't have that much difficulty finding friends, bc of Jabberwock, also having Mars in there already gives me a core hime for a second Element which is nice, specially bc it already has like 4 Belial friends, which make life really easier.

Now to my question:
I only have the possibility of one Miracle ticket, I I wanna spend it on the best possible way,
I'm thinking I could use it for the first account and get Cthulu and my water team would be really nice, even though I'm still not sure abput the damage, maybe after getting a MLB the next raid event I can hope for good friends.

My second option would be to use it on the second account, probably on Gaia, bc it's the best available Wind hime right now, but I don't understand how Wind works without a healer right now, is Wind even worth it without Cybele and Seth?

Anyway, I really don't know much about what is possible so every input would be appreciated ^^

Originally Posted by ImoutoMaster

For the first account I've been grinding and grinding but even after getting sniper shot and slowly but surely getting a full grid of SR assaults the damage doesn't really go up,

With Ryu-Oh, Sniper Shot and SR Assaults damage really shouldn't be a problem... there's two possible reasons:
1. SR Assaults aren't leveled?
2. You don't have Elemental attack.

Any Eidolon that says "Character attack" on it is one that you should stay away from. Such as Disasters. Tiamat coming up seems to be Elemental, so that's going to save your butt from having to farm Melusine.

Getting Friends can be really tough for new accounts, yes. That's just an unfortunate thing that everyone has to go through while new. HOWEVER, despite what the game tells you, you DO get the effect of Eidolons of people not in your Friend List. So make sure you pick Elemental attack every time. For Water, that's just Reiki and Jack Frost now, plus Fafnir from Fire side and Garuda from Wind side. Soon to also be Tiamat and Rudra, the Water P2W Eidolon.

Speaking of Eidolons, the reason why Jabberwock feels good for you is because your grid is poor. Once you get properly leveled grid, the 50% Character attack won't be all that much - Elemental attack becomes far better.
Maybe play around with the Damage calculator and see how Character attack and Elemental attack interact?

Also, you said that you had a lot of SRs. But which ones? The worthy ones for Water and Wind are Triton, Belphegor and Oberon. Do you have those?

Originally Posted by ImoutoMaster

My second option would be to use it on the second account, probably on Gaia, bc it's the best available Wind hime right now, but I don't understand how Wind works without a healer right now, is Wind even worth it without Cybele and Seth?

Seth is not a requirement, at least for the content that we've seen. In the future? Yeah, possibly.

SSR Cybele truly is a Wind core though. A shame she's not available in the second MT.

I saw Cybele [Unleashed] in the gacha content for this MT but she's..not in the exchange list for some reason . Am I high or did I look at the wrong list? Still..I'm not very happy that this happened since this is my first time spending money on this game after starting three days ago. Hope support does something but I'm not expecting much .

Assuming that I can't get Cybele [Unleashed] who should I go for? Cu Chulainn/Odin/Titania/Azazel/Hastur are my remaining choices. I have Gaia, Oberon, and normal Cybele as the team that I'll be using until I get upgrades. Help me wise kamihime pros!

Originally Posted by notlikethis

I saw Cybele [Unleashed] in the gacha content for this MT but she's..not in the exchange list for some reason . Am I high or did I look at the wrong list? Still..I'm not very happy that this happened since this is my first time spending money on this game after starting three days ago. Hope support does something but I'm not expecting much .

Assuming that I can't get Cybele [Unleashed] who should I go for? Cu Chulainn/Odin/Titania/Azazel/Hastur are my remaining choices. I have Gaia, Oberon, and normal Cybele as the team that I'll be using until I get upgrades. Help me wise kamihime pros!

Bro, you should inform yourself before you buy anything...
All Hime's that are released until 26.March (2nd Miracle Ticket release date) are included in the miracle ticket.
In other words no Cybele and Thanatos! You have to wait another 4-5 months for the next miracle ticket to get Cybele, if you still don't have her.

Therefore it's your own fault...

Originally Posted by Sora

Bro, you should inform yourself before you buy anything...
All Hime's that are released until 26.March (2nd Miracle Ticket release date) are included in the miracle ticket.
In other words no Cybele and Thanatos! You have to wait another 4-5 months for the next miracle ticket to get Cybele, if you still don't have her.

Therefore it's your own fault...

Sure it's my fault but none of the actual other games do this shit. I would know since I've done it plenty of times on FKG. It's a gacha not a document with fine print that I should know. The only information about this was buried in a news link that was posted last month. None of this more important information was in the notice or gacha content button that I checked. It was a mistake but it's not entirely my fault that it's falsely advertised.

Originally Posted by notlikethis

Sure it's my fault but none of the actual other games do this shit. I would know since I've done it plenty of times on FKG. It's a gacha not a document with fine print that I should know. The only information about this was buried in a news link that was posted last month. None of this more important information was in the notice or gacha content button that I checked. It was a mistake but it's not entirely my fault that it's falsely advertised.

That's NUTAKU... Don't expect too much from them.