Thread: Stacking overdrive reduction with extension... good or bad?

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I'm new to the game and I was thinking about what soul to use for my Water team. I mainly wanted a Soul with a class B ATK/DEF debuff, which means Mordred (10% + Overdrive Extension) or D'Art (20% + nothing). Thing is, I have Cthulhu which already has Overdrive Reduction. So is stacking them awesome (and I should go with Mordred) or pointless (and I should go with D'art)?

Oh, I'm planning to be a free player so I doubt I'll ever get Ryu-Oh or some other OE SSR. At most I'll MAAAYBE buy a miracle ticket down the line, and then it would probably just be for SSR Nike or Osiris I guess, I don't know.

I discuss this in the Water section of my Elemental Team-building Guide.

Oh right, I hadn't gotten that far yet!

So from what I read there the idea is to get Mordred for Black Propaganda, but then if possible get Joan D'arc as well and use Black Propaganda as an Ex skill. Does that sound about right?

What's Joan's primary skill? On the toolbox it just says "all -40%", I'm not sure what that means.

The actual the question here seems less to be about the skill combination than it is about simply which soul to get.

Getting D'art is for getting Sniper Shot (-20% atk/def b-frame). Getting Mordred is for Black Propaganda (overdrive extension). Both are extremely important for any difficult content but who you prioritize first depends on who you have as a soul is simply there to fill the missing skills your team doesn't have. Since you seem to be water, if you have Belphegor, then you can hold out on D'art. Since you said you don't have Ryu-Oh then you'll need to get Mordred. Cthulu, as great as she is, doesn't play much a role in deciding between one or the other but instead having her you can hold off on Joan.


Joan's main skill reduces all damage taken for your entire team (and allies if in a raid) by 40% for 1 turn.

Originally Posted by Aidoru

The actual the question here seems less to be about the skill combination than it is about simply which soul to get.

Getting D'art is for getting Sniper Shot (-20% atk/def b-frame). Getting Mordred is for Black Propaganda (overdrive extension). Both are extremely important for any difficult content but who you prioritize first depends on who you have as a soul is simply there to fill the missing skills your team doesn't have. Since you seem to be water, if you have Belphegor, then you can hold out on D'art. Since you said you don't have Ryu-Oh then you'll need to get Mordred. Cthulu, as great as she is, doesn't play much a role in deciding between one or the other but instead having her you can hold off on Joan.


Joan's main skill reduces all damage taken for your entire team (and allies if in a raid) by 40% for 1 turn.

Yeah, the problem is I literally rolled this sweet account last night (after ~130 rolls), so I have no idea who I'll have. I just assume I won't have SSRs like Ryu-Oh since I'm planning to be free, or at least mostly free.

But fair enough, I'll work towards Mortred and once I get there I'll analyze my team before deciding the 2nd legendary soul.

Joan's skill seems really strong. Why does having Cthulhu mean I can hold off on her?

Joan is mainly used for her class A ATK down debuff. Her defense skill isn't very useful without overdrive extension to back it up. 1 Block every 6 turns isn't enough when you're taking Raging Overdrives every 2 turns. You can sub overdrive extension as EX, but then you won't be able to run Sniper Shot.