Thread: Advice for 3rd legendary Soul

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

The problem with Andromeda is that if your debuffs miss, the extra healing won't matter. You're going to die to concentrated fire. Mordred is indispensable for most teams in solo content right now.

I guess You missed something important...

Originally Posted by Alvin Ramos

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I already have Arthur and Mordred...

And don't forget that there are also Union Events. If someone is using Mordred, someone else may use Andromeda...

Union event's aren't solo content, you can use whomever you want and it wouldn't make much difference, you'd still be clearing in the end with the help of others. With solo content, you can't rely on others to carry you and Mordred is the most important because her skills are essential. So she is top priority. Even if you don't use Mordred herself, getting Black Propaganda takes far more priority than Andromeda's ex skills, even Vivian and Cassiopeia provide better skills that they'd be worth using over Andromeda in many cases despite weaker heals, which you'll unlock both getting D'art, another top priority,

My priorities go:
Mordred > Joan/Andromeda > D'Artagnan
But that's just personal, you need to make up for what your team lacks with your Soul and EX Skill, plus if you're a low level player and unlock Mordred, I don't feel there's a need for Sniper Shot yet since you aren't doing Ragnarok or R4 Quests anytime soon...

Originally Posted by Neverbloom

My priorities go:
Mordred > Joan/Andromeda > D'Artagnan
But that's just personal, you need to make up for what your team lacks with your Soul and EX Skill, plus if you're a low level player and unlock Mordred, I don't feel there's a need for Sniper Shot yet since you aren't doing Ragnarok or R4 Quests anytime soon...

Sniper Shot isn't needed for just Ragnarok or Accessories quest, it's helpful at any stages of progression. Sniper Shot itself could be the difference between being able to clear Ultimate or being stuck farming Expert. But like I said in my original post 1 week ago, your order changes depending on who you got. You had Amaterasu and main'd fire IIRC, from your old huge image in your sig, so obviously you didn't need to prioritize D'art.

Originally Posted by Neverbloom

My priorities go:
Mordred > Joan/Andromeda > D'Artagnan--

You should almost never recommend Andromeda for newer players. She's a waste of 500 SP until you have Gawain, Cass, Mordred, Dartagnan and Joan. Possibly in that order.

Originally Posted by Aidoru

You had Amaterasu and main'd fire IIRC, from your old huge image in your sig, so obviously you didn't need to prioritize D'art.

No need to be salty, buddy.
And yeah pretty much I used to run Ama on everything that lacked B Frames before unlocking D'Art (Except Thunder)

Originally Posted by Slashley

You should almost never recommend Andromeda for newer players.

Alright let me make things clear with a little quote:

Originally Posted by Neverbloom

My priorities go:
Mordred > Joan/Andromeda > D'Artagnan
But that's just personal, you need to make up for what your team lacks with your Soul and EX Skill

Did I ever recommended something on him? All I said was that you have to know what your team lacks and make up for it.
He didn't disclosed his main team but he's lacking Heals in thunder (Pretty standard I'd say) and B Frames in Water and Light; he could really use Sniper Shot on his Mordred to make up for this but I never went out of my way to even suggest a Soul on him, it isn't very difficult, is it?

Originally Posted by Neverbloom

No need to be salty, buddy.
And yeah pretty much I used to run Ama on everything that lacked B Frames before unlocking D'Art (Except Thunder)


Alright let me make things clear with a little quote:



Did I ever recommended something on him? All I said was that you have to know what your team lacks and make up for it.
He didn't disclosed his main team but he's lacking Heals in thunder (Pretty standard I'd say) and B Frames in Water and Light; he could really use Sniper Shot on his Mordred to make up for this but I never went out of my way to even suggest a Soul on him, it isn't very difficult, is it?

There was no salt so I have no idea why you're assuming that. And yes, you did recommend him something, your 'personal' order. Please don't try to pretend it isn't. If it wasn't a recommendation, then there was absolutely no reason for you to post it, but you did, because it was a suggestion; a recommendation.

Definitely taking this out of proportion.

Originally Posted by Aidoru

There was no salt so I have no idea why you're assuming that. And yes, you did recommend him something, your 'personal' order. Please don't try to pretend it isn't. If it wasn't a recommendation, then there was absolutely no reason for you to post it, but you did, because it was a suggestion; a recommendation.

Definitely taking this out of proportion.

Perhaps there wasn't there but there definitely is now.
¿We don't know how to read here, do we?
Ahem What I DID recommend was for him to cover his personal weakness' with his Soul, the line you quoted from me is out of context without the full sentence but then again, we could do with Elementary English lessons over here...
Regardless, what am I doing with my life? Explaining a fully grown adult a simple reply in a game forum.

Originally Posted by Neverbloom

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He didn't disclosed his main team but he's lacking Heals in thunder (Pretty standard I'd say) -- he could really use Sniper Shot on his Mordred to make up for this but I never went out of my way to even suggest a Soul on him, it isn't very difficult, is it?

Thunder teams can't afford to run Sniper Shot on Mordred, or a healer really. They need to have both Ambush AND a B-type Def Down - this means either Mordred with Ambush, Gawain with Sniper Shot or Dartagnan with Ambush. With the exception of Accessory quests - where the player needs to be old enough to make their own calls - Thunder teams need to run a "kill it before it kills you" build.

There's only two exceptions to this, really. One, Tyr. Literally the only Thunder Hime with a Def debuff, allowing you more freedom with your Soul. Two, Sol. Other healers probably won't cut it, as the damage decrease just isn't worth the heals. Sol however, allows you to reach higher survival ability due to cutting damage while also healing it.

In other words, I do find your "not recommendation opinion" horrendously misguided. Please don't point new players towards Andromeda until they cover the basic Soul bases. There are exceptions to this such as somebody rerolling (Dark/Fire) Amaterasu+Ryu-Oh, but even when this happens you should properly explain it so that later, some other newbie wouldn't get the idea of "oh going for Andromeda early is a good idea!11"

But hey man, that's just my opinion. It's not like I'm recommending anything to you.

I used to run Andromeda in my first few months of play. But I had all my debuffs covered with Water SRs and a lot of bosses seemed to have negligible debuff resistance back then (and the game was just easier in general--I don't think I even lost a battle until Ixion Ragnarok). Also, literally anything was an improvement over Siegfried, my first tier 3 Soul. I picked up Mordred to do Ixion, and have rarely used other Souls since.