Thread: Advice for 3rd legendary Soul

Originally Posted by Neverbloom

if you're a low level player and unlock Mordred, I don't feel there's a need for Sniper Shot yet since you aren't doing Ragnarok or R4 Quests anytime soon...

The problem with the statement is here, which is what Aidoru was responding to. That's not good general advice, for exactly the reasons Aidoru outlined.

Then I don't get why quoting the other stuff in his latter part, it is an actually okay argument disregarding the fact that I still, didn't recommend him any Soul per say; I just gave my opinion in something I felt(as said initially) wasn't so important since the 5% difference between Outrage and Sniper Shot isn't for me as strong of a difference as another EX may be.

To close this off, as he assumed before "it must be a recommendation, since you commented and it wouldn't make sense otherwise, it must be!

A non-factual opinion doesn't equal a recommendation, nonetheless, if Aidoru is so black and white about things (it must be exactly what they asked or it shouldn't be posted-esque mindset) then why not just ignore it whilst thy gray was closer to black than white?

Originally Posted by Neverbloom

since the 5% difference between Outrage and Sniper Shot isn't for me as strong of a difference as another EX may be.

It's not 5%. It's 10%. And the difference between -40% ATK/DEF and -50% ATK/DEF is huge: ~20% survivability AND damage.

I get where Aidoru is coming from. While this particular user had no need for advice about D'art or Sniper Shot, when a user comes and asks a very basic question that has a consensus answer, it's not helpful for him to get a bunch of seemingly contradictory responses from regular posters. You might know exactly what you're talking about, but new players won't, and they won't necessarily have the knowledge base to sort out the best answers.

Originally Posted by Neverbloom

To close this off, as he assumed before "it must be a recommendation, since you commented and it wouldn't make sense otherwise, it must be!

A non-factual opinion doesn't equal a recommendation, nonetheless, if Aidoru is so black and white about things (it must be exactly what they asked or it shouldn't be posted-esque mindset) then why not just ignore it whilst thy gray was closer to black than white?

Yes it can equal a recommendation. A recommendation can easily be an opinion and doesn't need to be factual. It'd be like me recommending you a game I thought was enjoyable, which has nothing to do with facts, it's my opinion on it being enjoyable.

Me quoting you had nothing to do with your 'personal' order, I quoted you because of your Sniper Shot remark saying it's only suited for Ragnarok and Rank4 accessory quests. You brought up the 'I'm not recommending him anything" bit yourself because it seems you took me quoting you as some kind of attack, based on your post of calling 'salty' for some reason. There is no black and white, stop trying to escalate this into something it isn't.

Originally Posted by Neverbloom

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He didn't disclosed his main team but he's lacking Heals in thunder (Pretty standard I'd say) -- he could really use Sniper Shot on his Mordred to make up for this but I never went out of my way to even suggest a Soul on him, it isn't very difficult, is it?

Thunder teams can't afford to run Sniper Shot on Mordred, or a healer really. They need to have both Ambush AND a B-type Def Down - this means either Mordred with Ambush, Gawain with Sniper Shot or Dartagnan with Ambush. With the exception of Accessory quests - where the player needs to be old enough to make their own calls - Thunder teams need to run a "kill it before it kills you" build.

There's only two exceptions to this, really. One, Tyr. Literally the only Thunder Hime with a Def debuff, allowing you more freedom with your Soul. Two, Sol. Other healers probably won't cut it, as the damage decrease just isn't worth the heals. Sol however, allows you to reach higher survival ability due to cutting damage while also healing it.

In other words, I do find your "not recommendation opinion" horrendously misguided. Please don't point new players towards Andromeda until they cover the basic Soul bases. There are exceptions to this such as somebody rerolling (Dark/Fire) Amaterasu+Ryu-Oh, but even when this happens you should properly explain it so that later, some other newbie wouldn't get the idea of "oh going for Andromeda early is a good idea!11"

But hey man, that's just my opinion. It's not like I'm recommending anything to you.

I used to run Andromeda in my first few months of play. But I had all my debuffs covered with Water SRs and a lot of bosses seemed to have negligible debuff resistance back then (and the game was just easier in general--I don't think I even lost a battle until Ixion Ragnarok). Also, literally anything was an improvement over Siegfried, my first tier 3 Soul. I picked up Mordred to do Ixion, and have rarely used other Souls since.

I love how Slashey takes himself seriously after constantly displaying such a childish behavior nor the BakaHentai fiasco.

The internet is serious business, after all.