Thread: Best Lineup for my Water Grid?

Originally Posted by Ikki

not a fan of vof anymore since we got sphinx (although it misses quite often too), besides assuming elemental adv debuffs arent thaat hard to land, if vof is an issue then shingen with vof pulls way ahead of mord just because of PFB.

Running without a class B debuff ruins the entire point of running Shingen, since you'll lose half the damage gain from Provisional Forest, Shingen won't be guaranteed to get the buff, AND you'll be taking more damage.

Come to think of it, Vine could negate the damage decrease, but triple attacks with ATK -30% could still be a real problem.