Thread: Fixing newbie mistakes

Hi there, i am newbie in Kamihime, this is my first account (doing reroll) with about 3 months old but i feel it a little weak and very far from the optimal case.
I don't know if i should make a reroll or keep with this account. In the 2nd case, i don't know what should be improved, what to focus on.
I have being reading some threads like'Sanahtlig's Kamihime Project Guide' and i discoverd that i maked some (newbie) mistakes among them:

• Don't save the jewels for pull on the main team (i have no one), and spent them every time i collected 3k on any banner
• I spent my Soul P in almost every Elite-Standart Souls (just left 4 elites), because i don't knew which soul buy.

Then, i understood why i can not win in 3th level Accesory Quests or why is so difficult to me fight in last stages of the events.

Well, this is all i have:

Player lvl: 56
ID: 31835036

Souls:

Leyendary: Andromeda
Elite: Everyone except Cagliostro, Achiiles, Masamune, Rosenkreuz
Standart: Everyone except Spartacus

Thunder:

SSR Himes: None
SR Himes: Nemesis, Baal, Krishna
SSR Eidolons: Girimehkala, Meng Huo, Lilim Gula

Water:

SSR Himes: None
SR Himes: Oceanus, Cupid, Nike
SSR Eidolons: Jack Frost (3 stars)*

Wind:

SSR Himes: Cu Chulainn, Gaia (no awakened)
SR Himes: Cybele, Hermes, Krampus, Guan Yu, Oberon
SSR Eidolons: None**
Current Eidolon: Poison of Wind Disaster (4 stars)*

Fire:

SSR Himes: None
SR Himes: Agni, Ragaraja, Raguel, Bryndhildr, Ceridwen, Amon
SSR Eidolons: Lilim Ira
Current Eidolon: Ignited Dragoon

Dark:

SSR Himes: None
SR Himes: Lu Bu
SSR Eidolons: Amphisbaena (3 stars)*

Light:

SSR Himes: Raphael
SR Himes: Uranus
SSR Eidolons: Archangel, Sphinx, Saint Nicholas, Lilim Avarithia

*If i didn't specified the Eidolon star level, then they have 1 or 0.
** For Kyuky event i was on vacation , very far from the pc.

Currently, i have 12 SSR weapons, mostly with 1 or 0 star. I have 1300 jewels, 340 Soul P., 360 Holy Soul P., 5 Draconic Eye Shard (D.E.S.) and a bunch of N and R accesories

How you can see, i don't have a main team (maybe Wind, but my eidolon is crap; maybe Fire, but no SSR hime neither eidolon). I don't know if i should make a reroll or choose a main team (Wind or Fire i suppose) and try to make it grow up. If i choose the 2nd option, i would wanna know which soul i should buy, and what i should to focus on (ie. like farming D.E.S. and awakening Gaia, farming Accesories, focus on get a specific Soul, etc). I must add that i am a free-to-play player so i can not but a miracle ticket.

Until now, i have tried leveling every elemental team, every SSR/SR hime, every SSR/SR weapon and its skill, every SSR/SR hime, the opposite of what Sanahtlig mentioned. Most weapons are in 3-4 skill level. Most himes are in 3 stars.

Every advice is well received. Regards!

PD: I am not an english speaker, so if you think i said something wrong feel free to correct me.

PD2: And others questions.

1. In beginners case ¿Is better to have a lot of same-elemental low power weapons than a 'any-elemental' high power weapons equipped? The bonus of the same-elemental weapon affect everyone hime with that element (on the line).
2. Is Lilims eidolons effects usefull for beginners?

Focus on wind imo. Chu is ok, gaia is amazing.
second team should be water to deal with your elemental weakness, which is fire.

Souls that you need Mordred, joan and d'art (only for the snipershot). Those three should be your aim for now.

If you can not do comfortably atleast acc3 than there is no need to push yourself. Soonest on 3 you can find ssr accesorrys. You could always do acc2 for some stuff to sell, get points and buy the ssr rings in the shop once a month.

Weapon grid is the biggest statgain you can have. If you have SR or SSR rarity assault weapons use them. you can use 1-3 defender weapons early on IF they have good base stats.
If you don't have same elemental assault weapons, you can use for the time beeing offelement weapons with high stats. The better your base stats become, the less useful offelement stuff becomes.

Lilim eidelons have a massive flaw in that you need to have 3 different elements in your main team (backrow does not count), meaning that your assault weapons affect only 3/5 himes. If one of them dies and the replacement is not a different element you lose the lilim bonus, the lilim bonus also counts only for one element, and its character attack, meaning its basicly an addition to your assault skill level. The better your weapon grid becomes, the less impactful the lilimbonus gets.

So yeah, don't use lilim as your main eido.

You have an excellent Wind team. There's no reason to throw that away. There will be another Wind event SSR eidolon available eventually.

The failure to prioritize Souls properly can be fixed with farming and time. I'd pick up Mordred > D'art > Joan.

Make sure you farm Vine, as that'll greatly improve your damage. Also look up the materials to Awaken Gaia and start collecting those.

It should be noted that picking up SSR Cybele with a Miracle ticket would greatly improve your Wind team.

Thanks for answers. I have a few questions about them.

Make sure you farm Vine, as that'll greatly improve your damage

Vine have a 10% DEf summon debuff, is this better than 20% hp/atq from Disaster Wind eidolon? Because i have to wait 8 turns to use Vine debuff.

You write:
Each additional percentage point provides more benefit than the last. Reducing DEF from -40% to -50% increases damages by 20%, nearly double the benefit of 0% to 10%.

But in this case, i would lost 20% hp/atq from Disaster Wind eidolon. I know damage and atq don not the same, but i wanna understand if Vine is always better than Disaster Wind eidolon. I think, Vine could serve me situationally, ie. Acc Quest. Is it right?


By other hand, i have thinking which hime use in the main team and an strategy. Then, i had some questions.

Main team 1 - Endurance

Joan- Endurance / Extra ability: sniper shot (Def/Atq debuff B class)
Cu Chulainn - Damage
Gaia - endurance /(soft heal awakening)
Oberon - Def/Atq debuff A class
Caspiel* - Atq debuff ? class

35% Def debuff
50% Atq debuff (cap)
20% Def buff
2x 40% DMG reduction

Main team 2- Endurance

Joan- Endurance / Extra ability: black propaganda
Cu Chulainn - Damage
Gaia - endurance /(soft heal awakening)
Oberon & Cybele - Def/Atq debuff A & B class

35% Def debuff
2x 40% DMG reduction

Main team 3 - Balanced

Mordred - Utility / Extra ability: sniper shot (Def/Atq debuff B class)
Cu Chulainn - Damage
Gaia - endurance /(soft heal awakening)
Oberon - Def/Atq debuff A class
Guan Yu - Atq buff

35% Def/Atq debuff
1x 40% DMG reduction
More damage

Questions:

• Should i use Caspiel in this build or better use other hime?
• Is it too much endurance in the build 1?
• what class of debuff does caspiel have? no class?
• what do you think about them? some tip o recommendation?

You're not using Vine as a main eidolon, it's a sub eidolon and honestly, not a priority. It's good to pick up later but you should be focusing on the event. You goal right now should be leveling your weapon grid and getting fully maxed event eidolons.

Originally Posted by ANewbieGuy

Questions:

• Should i use Caspiel in this build or better use other hime?
• Is it too much endurance in the build 1?
• what class of debuff does caspiel have? no class?
• what do you think about them? some tip o recommendation?

Zephyrs is better to use over Caspiel now since the -50% cap was added. Zephyrs is -15% c-frame and Caspsel is a stacking -5% cumulative frame. It'd take you 9 turns to get -15% with Caspiel but that might be too much of a wait. With Zeph, it'd be instant and you'd have some heals.

I'd go with:
Joan + Black Propaganda
Gaia
Cybele
Oberon
Zephyrs

Just because Cu Chu is a SSR doesn't mean you need to use her. But if you you really want her in your party, then change Black Propaganda to Ambush and replace Oberon with Cu Chu.

This event doesn't offer much and is half finished anyway; spending all your seeds trying to finish it is a bad move with Icarus so close. Use natural regen BP and the BP given from rank up to get some of the rewards, but your immediate goal should be getting Vine and working on your weapons since Ixion is coming and that is not an easy fight at all.

Cybele and Oberon are irreplaceable until you get your souls together; I agree with getting Zephyrus (in the gem gacha if you don't have her).

He listed Cupid in his post he made a day ago. The hime you can get from this event. So I'm sure they have some time in the event already, the question is how much.

His biggest problem right now is his base stats, based off his post of him saying his eidolons are 0~1 star and listing Lilims and Disasters. Getting a proper eidolon grid is far more important than getting Vine, who I wouldn't be surprise would only be trouble in his current state due to its incredibly low stats.

Originally Posted by Aidoru

Getting a proper eidolon grid is far more important than getting Vine, who I wouldn't be surprise would only be trouble in his current state due to its incredibly low stats.

These aren't necessarily mutually exclusive. I have full rewards from this event already and barely used any AP, and my net seed usage has been break-even.

But you're right, but my suggestions weren't a priority list. They were long-term strategic goals that aren't listed specifically in my guide right now, and therefore are something he might not have come across yet. But certainly--outside of events--Vine is one of the better things to be spending excess AP on, especially since getting to that point in the story will unlock a whole bunch of jewels. And that extra -10% DEF will make Advent Ultimate bosses a lot easier with an incomplete weapon grid, which takes time to build.

For team, I'd go with:
Mordred + Sniper Shot
Gaia
Cu Chulainn
Oberon
Zephyrus

That'll get you to -50/-35 ATK/DEF, and -50/-45 with Vine. I favor Mordred since debuffs missing can be fatal, and Blind is really nice when it sticks. Andromeda or Joan are fine if debuffs are sticking reliably.

Originally Posted by Aidoru

He listed Cupid in his post he made a day ago. The hime you can get from this event. So I'm sure they have some time in the event already, the question is how much.

His biggest problem right now is his base stats, based off his post of him saying his eidolons are 0~1 star and listing Lilims and Disasters. Getting a proper eidolon grid is far more important than getting Vine, who I wouldn't be surprise would only be trouble in his current state due to its incredibly low stats.

I have the event SSR sword in 4 stars (lucky in events tickets) and Amphisbaena in 3 stars, i'll try to take her up to 4 stars using natural BP.

Originally Posted by Kureru

This event doesn't offer much and is half finished anyway; spending all your seeds trying to finish it is a bad move with Icarus so close.

I spent several seeds but saved about 50. I did not know about Icarus event until nows, so i'll save my seeds for that.

Originally Posted by Kureru

Use natural regen BP and the BP given from rank up to get some of the rewards, but your immediate goal should be getting Vine and working on your weapons since Ixion is coming and that is not an easy fight at all.

I'm using Vine right now, but she have 1 star (200hp 300 atq, incredibly low stats).
And what do you mean by working on my weapons? Leveling them and their skill lvl?

Originally Posted by Kureru

Cybele and Oberon are irreplaceable until you get your souls together; I agree with getting Zephyrus (in the gem gacha if you don't have her).

i think in use sneak atq as an extra ability, replacing cybele. I just have andromeda, so i think willl use this build for now

Andromeda - heal / Extra ability: sneak atq
Cu Chulainn - Damage
Gaia - endurance /(soft heal awakening)
Oberon - Def/Atq debuff A
zephyrus - Atq debuff C + heal
+Vine(200hp/300atq) like sub eidolon (replacing to 350hp/1150atq eidolon)

In this way, i would have

45% atq debuff
40% def debuff
heal
spike damage
endurance