Thread: Team Element advice and weapon grids

Your light team is very good, if you get the next miracle ticket in april and throw in light tsukuyomi you are set.


Dark is a good start with amon, if you want to obt for this one, consider getting hades with the next ticket, and afterwards thanatos as a 4th hime. sol fits very well in here.

Water is imo not in your best spot right now, you would need cthulhu or ryu-oh for a good start. personally would avoid going down this route, but listen to some other opinions first.

Fire - Sadly not really a good start, you should invest in other grids.

Lightning - Good start, but you will need serious investment in this lineup to make it strong, thunder struggles hard with having barely any debuffs, it will become easier in the future, but right now its hard.

Earth (wind) well whatever

edit: to your first question: the bonus you get from a skill level up of a weapon is always 0.5%, if you want to get the most benefit for the least buck, skill leveling your sr weapons first will give you bigger benefits for your mats short term, but the aim is to replace them all with ssr weapons in the future, so your call.
You can not put a simple number on "you need this amount of % atk to do acc4", it depends on your debuff access and a lot on your recovery. Did in the past acc4 with andromeda since i simply could not sustain the damage from the waves before without potion access.

Focus on your Light team and pump all your skill enhancement into that. Run Diana if you have her. You'll probably have a tough time until the next Miracle ticket, but your team will become very strong with Light Tsukuyomi. Lack of DEF- is what is currently holding your team back. Running Mordred with Ambush and Vine will help. Even better, run Mordred with Sniper Shot, Vine, and Diana.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

Focus on your Light team and pump all your skill enhancement into that. Run Diana if you have her. You'll probably have a tough time until the next Miracle ticket, but your team will become very strong with Light Tsukuyomi. Lack of DEF- is what is currently holding your team back. Running Mordred with Ambush and Vine will help. Even better, run Mordred with Sniper Shot, Vine, and Diana.

Alright thanks!. Kinda got confused about Vine. What is it?

vine is an SR eidelon that you can buy for the mats from the last world. It has an -10% def debuff on eidelon frame. Greatly helping with teams that lack def down.

Originally Posted by LeCrestfallen

vine is an SR eidelon that you can buy for the mats from the last world. It has an -10% def debuff on eidelon frame. Greatly helping with teams that lack def down.

Ah I see alright thanks, will consider that one if needed. I would guess the def down somehow surpasses the potential stat bonuses provided by a full SSR eidolon attack buff in certain cases?

if you have an ssr eidelon like mii with 2100 attack and an attack buff on use, you might consider doing the math first. but usually the def down wins, that is if you can apply the debuff early on in the fight (for example ultimate advent battles with trash before to pass some turns, or accesorry quests)
To me it was not really useful in ragnarok raids, since the bosses die or are very low life before i have vine ready, might aswell skip her.

Originally Posted by LeCrestfallen

if you have an ssr eidelon like mii with 2100 attack and an attack buff on use, you might consider doing the math first. but usually the def down wins, that is if you can apply the debuff early on in the fight (for example ultimate advent battles with trash before to pass some turns, or accesorry quests)
To me it was not really useful in ragnarok raids, since the bosses die or are very low life before i have vine ready, might aswell skip her.

Pretty sure Lilim Avaritia beats Mii right out of the water for a good atk buff, not to mention dat eidolon effect.

I like how there's 6 Lilims, and at least 3 different descriptions for the same passive effect. Essentially shows that there's no editor on the translation staff. Each translator does their own thing and there's no attempt at all to maintain consistency between translations... or any quality control at all, really. Even unpaid volunteers generally hold themselves to a higher standard than that.

Thanks, I agree on the need for further debuffs.

Main reason I was having second thoughts on my Light team was also the lack of debuffs unless I was using Mordred. My Wind does well on debuff part especially for DEF downs thats why even if they are just SR they actually damage better than my Light running Arthur. -_-'

Anyway I will take a look at Tsukuyomi again. I bought a miracle few months ago for Sol.

Almost forgot, my weapon grid for light a bit terrible as I failed to MLB the main assaults ones. But the hybrids recently I got them so they were the ones I pushed to skill 10. My Light currently also stands at around 40kish power.

More opinions welcome!

By the way there is only one Tsukuyomi right? So she will be the sort of debuffer using that Light resist down skill?