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Originally Posted by Kureru

This would need Trial, right? What would you use over Mordred if you had Trial ex?

I thought about it a bit. Without testing with Mars it's hard to judge whether Vicissitudes is needed (Mars can miss, Amaterasu's blind can miss) and there's the possibility of Ambush being reliable with resist down + VoF.

By removing Ambush def down drops to 45%. Hercules/Shingen can get back to 50% with the Pride bow and they have more offense than Mordred. Hercules doesn't need an ex skill so that allows Trial, Full Break is also nice to have. But that leaves the issue of the Pride bow having worse accuracy than Ambush, and Propaganda potentially being a better defensive skill than Trial. Mordred still seems more reliable on paper.

You can run Trial or use Joan. You could even use Joan + Ambush instead of Vine. Overdrive extension isn't so important if you have good mitigation, and a Fire team's goal should be to never eat more than one Raging Overdrive (and hopefully none at all).

Shingen can potentially greatly enhance Fire builds, but the problem is that Fire doesn't have the Burst gauge up available to make Shingen shine. That means that Fire is stuck running Hercules's EX skill to ensure Shingen can +100% Burst on time, which means it can't run the extra -ATK unless it runs Raguel. Alternatively, Shingen can run Trial and deal with the risk of not being able to Burst on time, which may or may not matter if the goal is to simply deplete the Rage meter in a single turn. Hercules with Provisional Forest is also an option if you want to give up on Burst damage potential, but that still leaves you without the extra -ATK.

Fire can also run Mordred + Trial or Mordred + Ambush. The point is that Mars's debuff makes all of these builds much better.

I don't factor in ordinary SSR weapon Burst effects because once Relic weapons are introduced those will supersede everything else. Building for these doesn't make sense other than as temporary stopgaps.