Thread: About DMM game closures on nutaku and opinions on kamihime's situation

Originally Posted by tommyboy

The thing is,when we pay money for a gatch, the contents are our virtual property. Nutaku may try to disclaim this in their T&C, and say that we are buying "the right to use" the contents for an indefinite period of time. The problem with their argument is that an agreement is only lawful to the extent that both sides give something of value. The right to use something for as long as Nutaku decides to let us probably wouldn't meet that standard. Instead, the gatcha contents would probably be viewed as the virtual property of the gamer.

Do you have anything which support this claim? Because paying for something doesn't mean there is a transfert of property.

Originally Posted by Keyen

Do you have anything which support this claim? Because paying for something doesn't mean there is a transfert of property.

When you pay for something, it's either property or services. I can't conceive of a gatcha pull being a service, so it's property.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

When you pay for something, it's either property or services. I can't conceive of a gatcha pull being a service, so it's property.

This is a fucking G A M E, you H A V E F U N when P L A Y I N G G A M E

Originally Posted by Unregistered

When you pay for something, it's either property or services. I can't conceive of a gatcha pull being a service, so it's property.

Other way around; this sort of thing is offered as a service as opposed to a product.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Games_as_a_service

Originally Posted by Unregistered

When you pay for something, it's either property or services. I can't conceive of a gatcha pull being a service, so it's property.

Except that more or less anything related to games on online platforms (like steam, origins, etc) is made to be a service, not a property. You don't own your games on steam, and you don't own your characters on KH.