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    Quote Originally Posted by Kureru View Post
    And Echidna. Please use Echidna over Amphisbaena.
    Oops, missed her. Yeah, Fire players would be pleased.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kureru View Post
    -- Thunder players are in a similar position (probably worse actually).
    Dunno, Thunder players have pretty much the same options. Belial/Kirin. Thunderbird/Fafnir in their own elements, Ouro/Echidna in Dark. And the now extinct Phoenix/Apocalypse.

    At least Thunder is getting their elemental attack sooner than Fire...


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    Quote Originally Posted by LeCrestfallen View Post
    its more attractive to fire players, however i don't know how the game behaves if you have the same eidelon twice equipped. Usually it shows every main eidelon from your team that got a different element, but echidna is a dark element eidelon, not fire, even though she improves dark/fire.
    I explain how the friend eidolon system works in my guide section How to attract strong friends.
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    What about putting Echidna AND Amphisbaena in my primary party slots? Does the game only let you lend out one Eidolon per element?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    What about putting Echidna AND Amphisbaena in my primary party slots? Does the game only let you lend out one Eidolon per element?
    No. Only one per element shows up. If you put Echidna in party A, then no other Dark Eidolon can show up.

    That's like the first thing that reads in Sanathlig's guide...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    To hyper-oversimplify, the damage formula is this:

    WeaponAssault*ElementalAttack

    If your Assault grid is low, there won't be much of a difference. But once your Assault grid gets high, you need to get every single little bit of elemental attack you can get your hands on.
    wait a minute... so ur saying that....

    this eidolon: http://kamihime-project.wikia.com/wiki/Cat_Sith

    is better than this eidolon: http://kamihime-project.wikia.com/wiki/Archangel

    is that correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by QXZ View Post
    wait a minute... so ur saying that....

    this eidolon: http://kamihime-project.wikia.com/wiki/Cat_Sith

    is better than this eidolon: http://kamihime-project.wikia.com/wiki/Archangel

    is that correct?
    Higher potential, yes. Actually reaching that potential is quite tough due to the stat difference between the R and the SSR... for you. For your friends? Not that tough. Attainable with a pure SR grid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QXZ View Post
    wait a minute... so ur saying that....

    this eidolon: http://kamihime-project.wikia.com/wiki/Cat_Sith

    is better than this eidolon: http://kamihime-project.wikia.com/wiki/Archangel

    is that correct?
    Assuming another eido grants +40% element atk, and a +130% weapon grid (maxed SR, SSR may not really get it higher)

    Cat: (1+1.3) x (1+0.4+0.3) = 3.91
    Angel: (1+1.3+0.5) x (1+0.4) = 3.92

    Also worth mentioning:
    Union event buff: +100% chara atk
    Elemental advantage: +45% element atk
    Soul exclusive weapon: +30% element atk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanderer View Post
    Assuming another eido grants +40% element atk, and a +130% weapon grid (maxed SR, SSR may not really get it higher)

    Cat: (1+1.3) x (1+0.4+0.3) = 3.91
    Angel: (1+1.3+0.5) x (1+0.4) = 3.92

    Also worth mentioning:
    Union event buff: +100% chara atk
    Elemental advantage: +45% element atk
    Soul exclusive weapon: +30% element atk
    Assuming the other eido is +Light char ATK 40% instead, then...

    Cat: (1+1.3 + 0.4) x (1+0.3) = 3.51
    Angel: (1+1.3+0.5 + 0.4) x (1) = 3.2


    so Cat could be +10% better over Angel, if ignoring the stats

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    Those are both Character Attack, so for damage output, they're terrible. Garuda or a R with elemental attack would be far stronger.

    Using Sleipnir is acceptable on content which you can handle with lower damage output though. Since more drops is better.
    well, i have a 1* garuda.... which should give 35% wind i think

    no quezetcotl either cause she's the ONE event eidolon i missed getting a copy of...


    plus given what you said, i'm guessing ifrit (55%), huanglong (MLB), and hecatonchires (40%) all suck too huh?

    i also have azathoth, but also a 3*echidna....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicSpice View Post
    well, i have a 1* garuda.... which should give 35% wind i think

    no quezetcotl either cause she's the ONE event eidolon i missed getting a copy of...


    plus given what you said, i'm guessing ifrit (55%), huanglong (MLB), and hecatonchires (40%) all suck too huh?

    i also have azathoth, but also a 3*echidna....
    You can use my Constitutive Effects Damage Calculator to compare how using different Eidolons will affect damage. You also have to factor in the base ATK differences for primary eidolons. See the Index for instructions on how to use the Toolbox.
    Magicami Starter Guide: Rerolling for Success
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