Thread: What Eidolons do my friends like?

Originally Posted by Laventale

I still have PTSD after spotting a red shield on the raid boss' buff/debuff bar.

and this is why i'm glad i have Sol...

but yeah, while nickolas has a decent light atk up, but that def buff on the enemies is a huge troll, so she's not really good for players that can't use her right...

kinda like the flood of lilims i see on my friend lists.... it's a huge atk spike to their element if the conditions are met, but you lose out on 2 characters so it's pretty much a waste unless you have something like awakened Svarog (stackable atk to +40%), and beelzebub (rampage)... even then that's still iffy and you'll need 2 of the same lilim to make the most of it

plus elemental atk is better... meaning a lot of my SSR eidolons are now a waste until I MLB them... lilims would be better off as a sub slot if anything

Originally Posted by MagicSpice

kinda like the flood of lilims i see on my friend lists.... it's a huge atk spike to their element if the conditions are met

It's not though. Running a team with 4 or 5 same-element characters is generally going to do more damage, and with no strings attached. Lilims are mainly useful for new players lacking a good grid and other eidolon options. The break-even point vs. a team with 4 same-element members and +90% elemental attack without elemental advantage is at around 40% assault skill, and 75% with elemental advantage.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

It's not though. Running a team with 4 or 5 same-element characters is generally going to do more damage, and with no strings attached. Lilims are mainly useful for new players lacking a good grid and other eidolon options. The break-even point vs. a team with 4 same-element members and +90% elemental attack without elemental advantage is at around 40% assault skill, and 75% with elemental advantage.

i did add the part about losing out on 2 potential attackers....

neither too much weapon atk nor too much element atk would optimize ur final output. Better they are close to each other.

For example

(1+200% weapon) x (1+100% element) = 600%
(1+100% weapon) x (1+200% element) = 600%

(1+150% weapon) x (1+150% element) = 625%


In this stage of game, there are much more sources increasing your weapon atk than element atk. So atm, element atk eidolon is generally better than charackter atk eidolon, but it doesn't mean it will be like this in any case.
Especially in the future the mlb 70% character up eidolon can outshine mlb 60% element eidolons, if ur friendly eidolo got 100%-120% element atk. the dmg of those charackter atk up eidolons come even close to non-lb-100% element eidolons due to the additional effect (burst dmg or ability dmg up).

U also have to consider atk up buff from ability, which usually increase character atk like weapon skill. If ur team provides alot atk buffs rather than debuffs, then 2x element atk up eidolons could be the better choice again.
So everyone should do a bit math for himself.

What about drop Eidos? (Anzu/Sleipner)
I have an Anzu up instead of ThunderBird (who you guys suggest is one of the better ones). I know Thunderbird is good, and works with Thunder and Light, but Anzu can be used by anyone grinding for mats and steamrolling over enemies with or without an offensive boost from friend eidos. I know I love my friends with Anzu and/or Sleipner. Should I switch over to T-Bird? I have no Light so I use both as primaries anyway its just a matter of what order I put them in. (permanent Wind, Water, Fire teams, a grinding/training team w/Anzu, and light/dark/thunder I build and dismantle as needed).

As a side note; I made a killing during the Icarus wind event, (double my normal money). I assumed it was because of MLB Crom Crunch, char atk and hp, because she's not common anymore but I also have echidna up as my dark, so that might have been the reason.

Originally Posted by Rattington

What about drop Eidos? (Anzu/Sleipner)
I have an Anzu up instead of ThunderBird (who you guys suggest is one of the better ones). I know Thunderbird is good, and works with Thunder and Light, but Anzu can be used by anyone grinding for mats and steamrolling over enemies with or without an offensive boost from friend eidos. I know I love my friends with Anzu and/or Sleipner. Should I switch over to T-Bird? I have no Light so I use both as primaries anyway its just a matter of what order I put them in. (permanent Wind, Water, Fire teams, a grinding/training team w/Anzu, and light/dark/thunder I build and dismantle as needed).

As a side note; I made a killing during the Icarus wind event, (double my normal money). I assumed it was because of MLB Crom Crunch, char atk and hp, because she's not common anymore but I also have echidna up as my dark, so that might have been the reason.

1. Anzu's effect is barely above placebo. It is probably more than 0, but not big enough for 99% of vets to bother (or even notice). I would advise against it, for what I am about to say next (Sleipnir is ok for now, but you'll want an ele one somewhere down the line):

2. Don't think of your support eido grid as a gem income; it is pocket change next to gem guerilla quests (which you should be spamming with HE, depending on your HE stock). Instead, think of it as capital for attracting (and keeping) strong friends. At low ranks, 40/20 is probably the best eido since people have low hp and near nonexistant grids. At high ranks, and especially among the more experienced crowd, ele eidos completely take over. Some of the most competitive people go through their lists and religiously kick anyone running a character atk eido. This shouldn't be a worry for you right now, just know it somewhere down the line (and when you reach that point, your grid is probably strong enough that you'd prefer ele eido too).

Originally Posted by Rattington

What about drop Eidos? (Anzu/Sleipner)
I have an Anzu up instead of ThunderBird (who you guys suggest is one of the better ones). I know Thunderbird is good, and works with Thunder and Light, but Anzu can be used by anyone grinding for mats and steamrolling over enemies with or without an offensive boost from friend eidos. I know I love my friends with Anzu and/or Sleipner. Should I switch over to T-Bird? I have no Light so I use both as primaries anyway its just a matter of what order I put them in. (permanent Wind, Water, Fire teams, a grinding/training team w/Anzu, and light/dark/thunder I build and dismantle as needed).

Simple; during water/dark events where you need to use thunder/light, set your eido that friends see as TB. During events that are not water/dark, feel free to change over to Anzu.
Same thing can be done with Sleipnir: during thunder events, switch over to an element↑ eido like Icarus instead, and then feel free to switch it back to Sleipnir for non-thunder events.

Anyway, that's how I'd do it.

Originally Posted by lliane

(which you should be spamming with HE, depending on your HE stock).

Cool thanks. Sorry, noob questions, but what is HE?

I think is Half-Elixir

Slightly off-topic but still related to eidolons. I have soooooo much eidolon mat right now, all my eidolons are max lvl. Granted my inventory is small (still 50) and I will increase it as soon as green jewel gacha are no longer boosted. Selling is a joke right now 10 gems no matter the rarity! So while neither is ideal; what is better to condense my inventory while keeping as much value as possible, LBing the eidolon mats or enhancing them?