Thread: (NEWBIE!!) Re-roll or buy Gacha?

not going to invest money in a nutaku game again.

Still i find it weird that literally every advice thread automatically assumes the player is going to spend. In aigis , we used the f2p stuff (either event or story - given ) as the base for team building (even tho the majority of the harem battle users were actually using money on the game. ) and when giving advice , so i'm kinda used to that.

That's because you're only reading advice from the same person.

Originally Posted by Aidoru

That's because you're only reading advice from the same person.

Who has a really big ego and shallow mindset.

Originally Posted by Aidoru

That's because you're only reading advice from the same person.

^ This, people in these forums do exactly what sana tells them, since sana assumes you are going to buy miracle tickets, so you should take what he says with a grain of salt and assuming his guides are just for basic gameplay, cause anything related to "advanced" stuff in them is plain wrong.

People who ask for advice here tend to skew towards willing to spend money, as far as I can recall.

The few times I've seen players ask for freeplay advice usually do so without providing specific details. In those cases, the best generic advice tends to be 'do the research, learn mechanics, figure out what you want, and plan when to roll accordingly'.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

People who ask for advice here tend to skew towards willing to spend money, as far as I can recall.

The few times I've seen players ask for freeplay advice usually do so without providing specific details. In those cases, the best generic advice tends to be 'do the research, learn mechanics, figure out what you want, and plan when to roll accordingly'.

so...the polite equivalent of "git good" ?

Originally Posted by lolix

so...the polite equivalent of "git good" ?

If you look at it that way

This IS a gacha game, so "git gud" doesn't exactly have the same meaning. Pray to RNGesus as number 1, number 2 being work with what you have. The game seems to be somewhat lenient to free players though, given that they actually do hand out freebies to supply your gacha rolling pretty often these days.

If someone can or cannot get a miracle ticket, then they just need to specify that when they post or when brought up by someone else if they didn't know what they were. It's not something to make a big deal over. Simply having it as a possible option alone opens up another layer of advice one can give, which is why people bring up it up until specified they can't buy one.

So in conclusion, I should re-roll is the gist of this whole conversation as Gaia alone is not going to help?

Originally Posted by lolix

following that logic , it's better to start with no SSR kamihime or eidolon at all , since you will have more room to grow. We both know it doesn't work like that....and rolling 2 more SSR (or even SR) kamihime of the same element that you need as a freemium , with no miracle ticket is very very unlikely.

I think you're looking at this the wrong way around.

Think of the P2W Eidolons as having... let's say 2 SSR Hime of that element. They don't take slots from the team, but you're still ridiculously powerful. And that powerfulness will only increase because getting Friends with P2W Eidolons, giving you effectively 2 more SSR Hime which don't take slots from the team.

As soon as your Soul can cover -40% Def, you'll do a ridiculous amount of damage with a full R / bad SR team. If you actually DO ever pull a SSR of the right element? Then you're absolutely golden.

That's why the 100% P2W Eidolons are so valued. Unless you're willing to sink TENS OF THOUSANDS of dollars into game, you'll never, ever find one otherwise. As they're a whale money sink, the odds are just stacked so badly against you. A free player will never, ever find one unless you started the game with one.

And if you are willing to pay for the game - like 50 bucks per 3 months - you'll be far, far stronger than any other non-whale player can ever hope be in about a year (including players who re-rolled two core SSR Hime). It's up to you do you want to pay or not, but do remember that there's pretty much no hobby in the real world that you can do for a full year for a mere 200 bucks. Even hiking shoes will probably cost you more than that. With zero gambling involved, the argument can be made that it's "worth it" but... that obviously depends on you.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

^ This, people in these forums do exactly what sana tells them, since sana assumes you are going to buy miracle tickets, so you should take what he says with a grain of salt and assuming his guides are just for basic gameplay, cause anything related to "advanced" stuff in them is plain wrong.

If any of the stuff are plain wrong, do point them out.

And Sanathlig assumes it because... well, that is absolutely the only way you can actually build a team in this game. There's a few individuals who have gotten absolutely ridiculously lucky with Gacha and built near-ideal SSR teams without paying supposedly, but people like that are 0.001% of the playerbase. Is there a point to making a guide if only 0.001% of people can make use out of it? Because the alternative version is pretty much "x y z w is the ideal team, didn't get lucky? put whatever you get from the gacha into your team, good luck!"

Originally Posted by Hentaison

So in conclusion, I should re-roll is the gist of this whole conversation as Gaia alone is not going to help?

This thread has been hi-jacked, heh.

You probably could keep re-rolling, but the question is... what is enough, then? You'll have to decide that for yourself.