Thread: Ares vs Azazel and some varied thoughts

Hello everyone¡¡¡
I'm new poster here, but I have been reading the forum for some time.


I have both Azazel and Ares, and I don't understand how Ares has that good reputation and nobody seems to like Azazel. The Player's Poll (Ares 8th, Azazel 29th) and varied player opinion seems to vastly prefer Ares. I find both really similar, but the auto-heal on Azazel seems to me much more useful than the extra burst on Ares. Is it the future Awakening of Ares? The fact that Ares is an original one? Some fact that I have missed?

My first SSR was Amaterasu, and I try to have good all the elements while clearly main Fire. Recently clear my first Accessory T4 without elixir (very proud of that)...but was wind; I lack a bit of confidence to try still to try on other elements. But I have an unexpected problem to really main Fire; the lack of fire events. I begin playing on Halloween. I was still too soft to do anything useful on the Wrath Crucible. And since then...a frustrating time until now, and a barren look to the future, with only the Yatagarasu reprint to help me. I would love to have more SSR fire weapons and event Eidolons, but the game has other ideas.

Other thing... have I bad luck, or Attack Up and Affliction Rate Up accessories are more rare than others? Mode Gauge, Defense Up and Ability Damage Up drops seems much more high (no problem with that Defense Up).

Like I said, I main Fire, but try to keep all elements on good shape. A bit of middle road between only one good element and working on all equally. I know that is not optimal, but I find one forgotten pro on having multiple elements; variety. Using the same team for all content with only small variations for each boss seems boring. Of course, I know that is something very subjective. But I have some curiosity. I am the only to think like that?

Sorry if there are some mistakes on my English; is not my native language. I am from Barcelona (Spain), and would like to know if there are here more people from Spain.

That's all; thanks for your time, and good game ¡¡¡ ^^

Originally Posted by Delete

-- Is it the future Awakening of Ares?--

This.
Unawaked Ares is... okay. Not anything special, but okay. Really, on the same boat with Azazel.

Once Awakened, Ares powers up a fair bit. Not enough that you'd pick her over Svarog/Uriel, but certainly still good.

Originally Posted by Delete

-- But I have an unexpected problem to really main Fire; the lack of fire events. I begin playing on Halloween. I was still too soft to do anything useful on the Wrath Crucible. And since then...a frustrating time until now, and a barren look to the future, with only the Yatagarasu reprint to help me. --

Yes. Unfortunately, it is a terrible time to be maining fire (as a new player who hasn't been part of the previous Fire events). For months, your weapon grid is going to be 8x Disaster SR, 1 Yata Gun and some random Fire R for whatever Hero you need to use...

Originally Posted by Delete

Other thing... have I bad luck, or Attack Up and Affliction Rate Up accessories are more rare than others? Mode Gauge, Defense Up and Ability Damage Up drops seems much more high (no problem with that Defense Up).

Yes, unfortunately. This honestly drains all my fun out of doing Accessory quests, as 90%+ of the stuff you get are absolutely useless garbage.

wait. The wepon the hero uses doesn't give stats to the rest of the party ?

Originally Posted by lolix

wait. The wepon the hero uses doesn't give stats to the rest of the party ?

It does, but sometimes you have no choice but to use a rare because the soul needs a specific weapon type.

Originally Posted by lolix

wait. The wepon the hero uses doesn't give stats to the rest of the party ?

It affects the party no different than the rest. You could have easily tested this simply by removing the weapon and looking at the stats of your team.

What they're saying above is that fire doesn't have any events for a long time, so they're stuck using whatever they can get for their soul, even if it's a R weapon. It really only applies if you just started the game recently.

I found it funny when I read the lack of enthusiasm people here had with the Yatagarasu reprint, while I was pretty excited to at last have a Fire event. Logical, as it was a second reprint, but funny none the less.

My weapon selection for fire is passable. Not great, but I can work with things like the fire from Koihime. The lack of good SSR weapons is a problem. I look the event SSR weapons I have for water and light...

The wait for the Ares Awakening seems sooooo long. Specially with Thor looking me with puppy eyes saying "awake me, plis".

Edit: It depends what is "recently". I began just on time for Halloween, and was too newbie to Wrath. I think I really began on the worst possible moment to main fire.

Originally Posted by Delete

I found it funny when I read the lack of enthusiasm people here had with the Yatagarasu reprint, while I was pretty excited to at last have a Fire event. Logical, as it was a second reprint, but funny none the less.

My weapon selection for fire is passable. Not great, but I can work with things like the fire from Koihime. The lack of good SSR weapons is a problem. I look the event SSR weapons I have for water and light...

The wait for the Ares Awakening seems sooooo long. Specially with Thor looking me with puppy eyes saying "awake me, plis".

Edit: It depends what is "recently". I began just on time for Halloween, and was too newbie to Wrath. I think I really began on the worst possible moment to main fire.

People didn't care for Yata event because many already got everything of value. This is the third time we've had the event and they didn't restock anything.

Starting right now is the worst possible time for fire.

Oh dear. Reading this makes me kinda sad xD

Just started and fire is my main team

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Oh dear. Reading this makes me kinda sad xD

Just started and fire is my main team

3 months without a fire event, in case you were wondering. If you haven't progressed too late/ don't have a particularly good fire account/ don't have Belial, this is quite a good time to bail while you can.

Originally Posted by Delete

The wait for the Ares Awakening seems sooooo long. Specially with Thor looking me with puppy eyes saying "awake me, plis".

err..not that long, she'll get awakened somewhere in april (20something) so..about 1 month and 2 weeks or so