Thread: Wind Catastrophe

The key to ez wind rag for fire is having dakki mainly cause of her wind rst up, along with her rampage (same ratio as beelz) which makes you push her phases faster and her drain gives a bit of sustain (her animation is a pita tho), cause as i said in my first post, since this rag is a bitch in terms of debuffs landing, you rely on dmg cuts and dakki is the only dmg cut fire has.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

The key to ez wind rag for fire is having dakki mainly cause of her wind rst up, along with her rampage (same ratio as beelz) which makes you push her phases faster and her drain gives a bit of sustain (her animation is a pita tho), cause as i said in my first post, since this rag is a bitch in terms of debuffs landing, you rely on dmg cuts and dakki is the only dmg cut fire has.

ugh... more reason to pull for her when i get the chance (she was one of the top 10 SSR votes)... already wanted her cause i LOVE fox girls.... (wolf girls too, which is why i'm glad i got fenrir)

i'll get that damn fox eventually.... just wait...

Originally Posted by Neverbloom

Now that I think about it, maybe even Andromeda is good here if you lack some pieces.

sadly, i only have brynhildr on that list you mentioned... so i'll need Joan or andromeda.... whoever is better if i run fire

The players clearing this solo appear to have access to exclusive advantages (otherwise known as bragging rights, the currency of the Internet):
A Fire team with key SSRs that a typical veteran (that doesn't main Fire) won't have -> money and/or serendipity
A maxed grid for Fire -> time/patience and/or serendipity
The only element with a useful +100% eidolon for this fight -> this is actually unique to the Nutaku version's Catastrophe release-order

If you have all of these, then you're now able to farm items for Wind a bit more effectively, which aren't even all that useful to Wind right now. You can get MVPs more easily, but you can't trade in the rewards these MVPs give you. I'm considering switching to Wind as primary, and I'm not all that bothered by not having the perfect farm team for this.

What I am bothered by is the toxicity that's been seeping into these forums lately and tainting discussions more with each passing day. This is the sort of thing that rips communities apart. Undoubtedly most hardcore users play games like this for the community, but if this keeps up morale will sink and the useful people that serve as the glue are going to wander off. One way to solve this is to bring in moderators and have them to police the community if it can't police itself. That's how one community I was part of carved an island for itself in a sea of toxicity.

Those who seek to silence the voices of dissenting opinions when it comes to misguided notions, are the ones that people need to truly fear. In any truly open forum of discussion, the ones you should always be wary of are those who seek to silence voices that don't agree with theirs, or "police" it as they like to call it.

It seems like ignoring the facts at this point.

If you have Amaterasu perse it won't hurt at all to bring her despite her two Debuffs because she has higher attack than most SR'S I'm aware of, also a Regen and buff that's pretty useful for that event, in that regard it won't be harmful at all but if you build completely around it and go as far as running a soul like Mordred for the Debuffs then that's pretty much what I'm arguing.
Not going out of your way for Debuffs, of course you will run Mars, Amaterasu, Hephaestus, etc if you have them in your main already, that's just common sense.

So far two persons have agreed with me on this and I don't see other than a comment suggesting relying on the supporters' Debuffs to land to be on your side of the coin, but it's okay if you're with that mentality, just don't suggest it to others if you're not sure of the effectivity regarding the other method.

If they don't have those there's always a few ways out, what I meant with that is that you may have other useful SR's to fulfill those roles, say Brynhildr, Agni, I really don't remember SR names but there's at least 4 really good ones I own, and there probably are others I don't, also a workaround would be countering the raid capabilities and covering your team with your soul, be it defensive or offensive wise rather than debuff wise as normally.

I hope that explains the table of zero for you.


About the latter, fire is a really strong element with SR's to cover A Frames, Elemental Buffs, two avaliable healers, an R B Frame -20&-20% debuffer, Sr Kamihime that can raise your burst bar per turn, Regen enablers at SR Level and even a free raid SR who self heals, buffs the whole party and something else.
Nowadays water and wind aren't the only holy grails for F2P Friendly, and yes I might have a bunch of fire SSR and my team might be good composition wise while only spending 20$ (that netted me Raphael) on the game by sheer luck but that only shows that you don't need to be a so called whale to get there.
There's plenty to work with and you don't have to be so hallow minded, salty or discouraged by the fact that I own a "Close to Ideal" fire team (I don't have Belial or Mars lol)


For me it's fine, I won't use my Svarog, Ares, Dakki, Summer Sol, etc.
I'll just use Amaterasu for SSR since by your logic debuffer are fine and I'll drop my normal game plan out.
That alongside other 3 SR's and an SR Bench and see how far does it take me and the damage I made in the end.

About recording, I've never recorded anything unrelated or related to this game and I doubt my laptop can handle it since it's a rusty potato, I can report with a bunch of screenshots though.

Good luck.

Originally Posted by Slashley

I would've been happy with 30% and ecstatic with 50%, but this was just pitiful

I'll just spoiler this miserably video.

->Open Spoiler<-

According to the MvP screen, I did 2.8m damage. That's ~17.5% I believe, as the thing has 16m HP.

Yeah. Shamefur dispray.
Thanks to Hinyu for more or less soloing the rest of the fight. I closed the tab after requesting help so I didn't get to see it.

You tried and it's what counts, I'm yet to do my attempt but I'll do during the day.

Debuffs + Off Att it's just block heading to me, but still if it's what you're into...
Just don't suggest it to others

Your best bet for farming the wind rag is to just run a fire team with heals and defense buffs/damage cuts. You might not be able to solo it like I can, but it would sure as hell be far more consistent for getting mvp, vs running an off-element team and praying for any debuff to land.

so from what i'm getting, i should just run fire team with either Joan or Andromeda....

also kinda wish I had Dakki since she's the fire version of Beelzebub only no def drops but no direct atk buff (but has a wind damage cut in place of it).

i'd likely run her, Ares, Brynhildr, and Svarog if i ever pulled her like i wanted to... (good thing there's a rate up on her soon)

Originally Posted by MagicSpice

so from what i'm getting, i should just run fire team with either Joan or Andromeda....

also kinda wish I had Dakki since she's the fire version of Beelzebub only no def drops but no direct atk buff (but has a wind damage cut in place of it).

i'd likely run her, Ares, Brynhildr, and Svarog if i ever pulled her like i wanted to... (good thing there's a rate up on her soon)

This is my current Fire team setup and I'm not anywhere near clearing the wind rag.

Originally Posted by Laventale

This is my current Fire team setup and I'm not anywhere near clearing the wind rag.

I'm a bit concerned that your fire himes only benefit from 4 weapon skills in that team (see the blue skill 4). Can you show your weapon grid?