Thread: Wind Catastrophe

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

-- Which is why I was worried, in an ideal weapon grid your the blue skill section should read skill 9, but since I see skill 4, I was having doubts that your entire weapon grid was fully fire.--

10.
And 11 if there's one double-skill. And 12 if two.

Fire doesn't have any event double-skill weapons out on Nutaku though.

Originally Posted by Slashley

10.
And 11 if there's one double-skill. And 12 if two.

Fire doesn't have any event double-skill weapons out on Nutaku though.

in a perfect world, it'd read 20... at least 10 of which being large assault...

but maybe they'll get to it eventually... kamipro is still going hella strong on DMM (along with FKG and senpro)

Originally Posted by SlickFenix

Only the Host gets the Regalia. All others get the shards.

and considering we don't have the shard trade yet, that means anyone wanting a MLB wind regalia weapon right now needs to farm the hell out of that raid...

if i added it up right, just the AP count alone is 6000 spent...

AP is not a problem since you can't create more than 3 per day and high rank players have over 100 base AP and probably hundreds of elixirs, so another 50 or so AP can be gotten from a single elixir a day if they don't want to wait for regen.

The cores to start the raid are the problem, even more so since the other lower difficulty raids to get them don't guarantee drops and are also day limited. You can't get cores from shop or SP quests either. So unless you already have ridiculous amount saved, you won't be anywhere close.

Originally Posted by Aidoru

AP is not a problem since you can't create more than 3 per day and high rank players have over 100 base AP and probably hundreds of elixirs, so another 50 or so AP can be gotten from a single elixir a day if they don't want to wait for regen.

The cores to start the raid are the problem, even more so since the other lower difficulty raids to get them don't guarantee drops and are also day limited. You can't get cores from shop or SP quests either. So unless you already have ridiculous amount saved, you won't be anywhere close.

yeah, the cores alone is roughly 90 just to get one copy of the weapon from starting raids...

so you'll need a whooping 360 of them to even MLB a regalia weapon this way... even if you somehow have a ton of luck, you'll likely only get around 9-12 cores a day.

it's more or less unfeasible to get one anytime soon... hence why i'm not in a rush (but still want to clear one if it pops up)

Spawning 1 and joining 1 raid a day, and MVPing each time, will earn you 70 regalia a month once regalia are added to the shop. So even farming casually like me, you could easily MLB a weapon in 2 months. The core drop rate from Experts is maybe 1 per 3 fights, and 1 per 5 from Normal? Add in the drops from the Catastrophe itself, and 1 spawn per day seems sustainable, especially if you start with a stockpile of 30 or so.

even then, that's a tall order for the typical player....

even having a player that does try to farm as much as possible will end up doing raids, accessories, and SP quests (cause you need accessory entry items).... on top of events....

plus some of those materials gotta go to any worthwhile kamihime (i left thor at 1 star awakened for a long time due to lack of farming)

i highly doubt anyone has stockpiled enough elixirs for all that, unless they're a major kraken/space whale

You're not going to be spam farming AQ4 while doing this, no. But presumably many players have a full set of SR accessories by now, and they'll be casually farming AQ3 with resources stockpiled over the past 3 months. I have enough for 10 weeks of runs on every element I think without additional farming. Disasters sometimes drop the AQ3 and AQ4 spawn materials too.

ignore me beating a dead horse, this is just for a brief display (something that I lacked while explaining before before)

Originally Posted by MagicSpice

unless they're a major kraken/space whale

I apologize in advance for being unable to record a battle but my laptop even lags on Youtube so I mostly play on my phone from my job.
Now since this is a major misconception (being able to clear hard content only if you're a lovecraftian whale) I'll be adjunting and explaining my previous "attempts" at explaining my personal strategy to clear this content or atleast get as far as you can without dying.

First things first; you have to know and be aware that your main "x" element team won't be able to clear all the content / won't do it in the most optimal way. Typically "odd" raids with a special gimmicks require you to make adjustments around to counter their mechanics nor adapt to their skillset (Examples: Medusa, Wind Lilim Demon, Wind Catastrophe, Typhon and in the future Horus).

With this in mind let's go to this Raid's gimmick, moveset and recommended counters/playstyle.
This Raid's main gimmick is that the almighty Debuffs are almost imposible to land on it (literally 1/15 chance on single debuffs like Ambush and 1/5 chance on dual debuffs like Amaterasu or Sniper Shot), his detailed moveset is:
-Normal Attack (He uses this both in his normal state and on his Raging state.
-Overdrive #1 (Outside of Rage): He attacks one Kamihime with a big damage dealing skill (-4000/-5000 if using Fire) and applies a Regen Buff to self that heals him everytime he lands a hit (usually for 15000-20000 per hit so you can totally out damage it).
-Overdrive #2 (Raging): He attacks randomly 5 times with the same skill as before (maybe a little less) and self buffs himself with Double and Triple Attack Rate +.
-Overdrive #3 (Raging): He attacks all Kamihime for the same damage as before (maybe a little less) and attempts to apply this debuffs to the party: Attack Down (Unknown quantity and Frame), Dizziness/Charm.
*Quick Notice: You can easily dispel this since his Skills are random and it's probable that he will only buff himself with Regen if you know how to Manage his Raging Phase, my personal recommended Strategy for Solo or partially Solo Attempts is that you use a dispel for the Regen Buff and just wait the time on the Raging Double + Triple Rate buffs out.
There's not much to say here other than this: Be careful with the Overdrives when the raid is Raging


With this out of the way we can continue with the recommended composition/strategy to tackle this raid.
* Avoid Debuffs if able to: Contrary to some belief running Debuffs against this raid is a complete waste of a slot, now let me articulate further on it: if you have say Amaterasu or Mars run them by all means, they're amazing, just don't go out of your way to run debuffs (example: benching a good Kamihime to run an R/SR Debuffer, running a Soul like Mordred, D'Artagnan etc because of their debuffs or using EX Skill Debuffs like Sniper Shot, Ambush, Trial by Jury or Black Propaganda avoid this at all costs), now yes; if a debuff land it is extremely powerful and a total game changer but if you rely on them rather than using that spot on another useful Skill/Kamihime with the criminally low chances of it landing (1/15 Single & 1/5 Dual) you're shooting yourself in the foot by sacrificing survivability that you will need against this raid for a really counterproductive almost imposible to payout gamble. Even if you aren't powerful or have top tier Kamihime to lower the raid HP by say 30% or 50% on your own don't do it, if you ask for help and an inexperienced player joins with debuffs is his problem and if one by any chance lands good, just don't rely on them at all; adapt to not having debuffs.

*As said before survivability is the main name of fighting this Raid but Raw Damage is a close second; this is why if you lack Healers, Regen Enablers, Buffers and or Damage Cutters you want to fill those Kamihime Spots with high Fire damaging Kamihime. Yes, some Fire Kamihime that are normally outclassed or classified as "Mediocre" (Say Acala, Ares, etcetera) are absolutely amazing if you lack the higher tier Kamihime to tackle this raid here and most likely only here (in my opinion).

*I don't like recommending what Kamihime to bring or use since Fire has a huge pool of useful and also some mediocre Kamihime and most players won't have the optimal setup or the MVP's to deal with this raid but since popular demand is normally asking for it here it is nonetheless:
Tier 1 Against this raid:
1. Dakki (Damage Cut + Rampaging and Multiple Hit + For the whole party)
2. Svarog [Awakened] (Permanent +40% Attack buff for the whole party + fast Burst gain and huge Nuke)
3. Summer Sol (Party Heal fucking finally amirite, nevermind it's limited, Party Att Buff)
4. Brynhildr (Party Heal, Party Attack Buff & Double Hit Rate +)
5. Amaterasu (Party Regen) [YES, FIRE LACKS HEALERS THIS MUCH)
6. Mars (Dispel for those pesky overdrives, pseudo Nuke, Party Buff)
7. Ragaraja (Party Regen, Party Zeal for faster Burst)
Tier 2 Against this raid:
1. Any Nuker / High Hitting Kamihime: Ares, Acala, Uriel, etc (avoid Stun exploiters since this boss' Stun lasts
literally no time (200-500k / 2 Party Attacks)
2. Any Party Buffing Kamihime: Agni, etc...
The tiers' relevance goes according to this: Tier 1 is your priority and Tier 2 is filler*

* Recommended Souls follow this order:
1. Do you need a Healer? You're running Fire, you DO need a Healer if you want to survive this raid, try using Andromeda, Cassiopeia (Most recommended [heal + dispel] or Joan D'arc (2nd Most Recommended for her Damage Cut + Regen) as your main if possible.
2. You're a big boy, huh? You have a healer and you hit like a truck? Might as well kill the raid faster: Recommended Souls then are; Arthur, Hercules, Morgan & Friends

* Your recommended EX Skill follows the same logic: First you want to grab a healing skill if possible, if you're confident of yourself grab a dispel (this goes to those attempting to solo or those who solo a chunk of the raid's HP before asking for help) and after you want to use a Damage increasing skill that goes with your strategy like Arthur with Provisional Forest or something (big boy damage dealers only).

Last important advice: Ignore off-attribute Kamihime at all cost, don't try to use any other attribute Team unless your Fire team is really, really crappy and of course, don't run off-attribute Kamihime at all here, your Sol for example will get absolutely decimated by the raid (off attribute damage) and her damage will be ridiculously low since your weapons/eidolon won't boost her, also the skills won't make up for it at all this time; it's a total no-no, sorry for those who run these on their Fire main, this boss is ruthless

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Now that we're done with that I'll give my experience and testimony on facing this particular raid:

That's an old picture (1-2 weeks old I forgot) of me soloing this raid before I got my Mars, at the time being my Grid was at 125% Assault out of a possible 164% Assault when maxed, I also run with a very bad Eidolon (Cthugha +40% Character Attack +20% HP), so I wasn't in the 'optimal' damage situation when not maxed and without Belial, so that's a thing...
I normally solo this raid since it came out a few times a day when I have spare time (as the picture shows I lose a lot of time since Chrome is ass and it gets stuck so I have to reload the page after each 4 minutes since it has a memory hog issue) and when not I just auto it and ask for help always getting MVP...
I tried my best to explain what to and not to do while facing this raid and you might not be able to defeat it by yourself but you will be able to take a bigger chunk of his HP out and also last longer while fighting if your grid isn't as good or you don't have the main Kamihimes needed for the task, I did a test in which I only used SR against this Raid and I took 50'ish% of his HP Solo before dying so it's possible to MVP even if you don't have the overpowered Kamihimes, even 30% HP is enough to MVP most of the time, I've joined Ragnarok Wind Disaster Raids at 50% HP and gotten MVP myself so don't feel discouraged if you did poorly before.

I truly hope this helped and if you have any other question let me know.

Well I did a Solo run without Andromeda (Using Joan) and using my Level 25 Mars (I just got Mars today lol) and I actually made it easily, Joan died near the end but no one else did and I did it myself lol, with a glorified R Girl in Level 25 Mars kek.

excuse the humongous picture size please