On persistent social toxicity in this forum

[lolix]

lolix seems to have a long, long history with HBC, and yet is fairly new on Kamihime side. Why not start there?

Because to be perfectly honest , i'm probably not suited to that , mostly because I also tend to get into heated arguments at times.

[Unregistered user]

Tbh, both parties should chill a bit before posting or just have the willing to talk and share experiences without getting involved personally. Both parties are playing a game I'm exhausted to see everywhere. One plays the game where they thinks they are right, comes out to be a bigmouth and loose every way of rightness in the discussion (have to say I saw Neverbloom say sorry but in his/her particular way); and the other party just play in a clever way, that is just using the tools they have at hand to crush the other party having or not the correct answer to the matter. Your problem? You cant step aside your personal behaviour and have a free toxic debate about a topic that can be seen under a lot of different ways, and maybe, it points out one of you have the right answer or both are wrong. As I said, I'm tired of seeing this happening always when a debate comes out.

We really appreciate you taking your time to help with this matter. I'm sure you're busy and sorting out disputes like this is probably tiresome. Thanks for doing your best to improve the community.

This is using a low blow to the other party, being nice towards the one in charge to have a better image. Not saying that Kotono isnt doing a great work and we should thank him/her, but this isnt the time to do so, "clever party". And you should be open to other people thinking different from you and not turn all into a drama.

"Bigmouth party" hope you get unbanned or come back again because you have some good points in your arguments, but your mouth plays you bad sometimes. To give you a point, you said sorry, but you should try to say it more openly. As a say we have in my country "Ask for forgiveness is for wise people" and you shouldn't be ashamed to recognize you made a mistake as we all can make a mistake sometimes.

Feel free to alineate me, but as I said in this post or in another, I was an unregistered and just came sometimes in search of some info or strategies that I could not see by myself.

[sanahtlig]

This is using a low blow to the other party, being nice towards the one in charge to have a better image. Not saying that Kotono isnt doing a great work and we should thank him/her, but this isnt the time to do so, "clever party". And you should be open to other people thinking different from you and not turn all into a drama.

It wasn't. I thanked Kotono for selecting a moderator to mediate this and future disputes and imposing a technical control to help mitigate abuse. Neverbloom appears to have gotten himself banned for using an alt account to try and hide his identity in defiance of the new policy--and this happened after my post.

[Unregistered user]

It wasn't. I thanked Kotono for selecting a moderator to mediate this and future disputes and imposing a technical control to help mitigate abuse. Neverbloom appears to have gotten himself banned for using an alt account to try and hide his identity in defiance of the new policy--and this happened after my post.

As you did before, you could have thanked him via PM, discord,... But doing it here in an open post where people are saying opinions about the matter of toxicity implies that you want to show yourself as a "good party" in the matter as you position yourself at the same side of the one with real power in here. That's a game I have seen too much being it in classroom asking the teacher, praising the boss at work and a large etc, and that is something I saw not only in this post, but in others of yours. So you should try for once relaxing and not setting things up so you can cover yourself in case of emergency.

And in a side note, I'm not saying things to hurt anyone but to try to say things under my point of view, consider it a third party that has nothing to do with the argue both parties are having so you can see things into a fresh new point of view without thinking "You are from the other party and I won't listen to anything that you say, I will only read this to answer you in a way I came with the truth (my truth)" and try to finish this fight. Maybe, with some luck, all can learn about this and have a proper discussion in the future without getting involved into personal fights.

[Pareidolia]

That's somewhat true, I had an account called Sogenmu and this one, hence the one week ban (I just remembered I had this account here as well)

Now, I don't feel ashamed of what happened at all since we we're both wrong and atleast accepted it and apologized over it, what I hope is that this whole incident also helped the other party realize it's mistake as pointed not only by me but by a handful of forum members in my latter posts, I know at least one did, forthe other; I'm starting to believe that he'll never change and will go out of his way to get what he wants, so meh; this might serve to other users regardless of him learning or dismissing the whole point over the cat-fight that came before the whole discussion.

To end with this, my final post on this forum, if I could I would deactivate (delete permanently) these accounts but as it stands it's not possible, what I can and will do is dismiss this forum as long as the behavior that I was trying to prevent keeps happening and that will be the case for as long as some other member I won't point at won't change, accept his mistake or leave.

I hope you understand that I wasn't arguing or discussing over "toxicity" or "insults" over the two threads but missinformation and the form in which it's used, since as far as I'm concerned, I used to forum to help others but myself.

Now, have a good one and cheers.


Sincerely:
-Neverbloom

[Laventale]

That's somewhat true, I had an account called Sogenmu and this one, hence the one week ban (I just remembered I had this account here as well)

Now, I don't feel ashamed of what happened at all since we we're both wrong and atleast accepted it and apologized over it, what I hope is that this whole incident also helped the other party realize it's mistake as pointed not only by me but by a handful of forum members in my latter posts, I know at least one did, forthe other; I'm starting to believe that he'll never change and will go out of his way to get what he wants, so meh; this might serve to other users regardless of him learning or dismissing the whole point over the cat-fight that came before the whole discussion.

To end with this, my final post on this forum, if I could I would deactivate (delete permanently) these accounts but as it stands it's not possible, what I can and will do is dismiss this forum as long as the behavior that I was trying to prevent keeps happening and that will be the case for as long as some other member I won't point at won't change, accept his mistake or leave.

I hope you understand that I wasn't arguing or discussing over "toxicity" or "insults" over the two threads but missinformation and the form in which it's used, since as far as I'm concerned, I used to forum to help others but myself.

Now, have a good one and cheers.


Sincerely:
-Neverbloom

Everything is cool and all but there's absolutely no need to throw a hiss for everything that happened, tbh.

And excluding yourself from the forums without anyone asking for it is kinda childish, but whatever pleases you the most...

Anyway, good luck in your future endeavors.

[Laventale]

Given that there's nothing else to discuss over here, I'll feel free to close this thread.

Hope everything got sorted out. If something like this happens again, feel free to report the problematic person or talk directly to me.