I apologise if I came across as grouping your methods of arguments in the "hoho you're a shitbag" category bag, for the sake of fairness I've went past previous threads to make sure I wasn't making the wrong judgement for you, and indeed, you've tried your best to keep as civil as possible, I re-emphasise that I am terribly sorry. What I have observed is that you are noticeably losing your patience as the argument goes along (most notably in the general discussions thread), and that argument has probably tainted your impression of a few of our members here. Hell, my message probably already tainted your impression of me. I only ask of you this: please don't take it to heart, be it that general discussion issue, my message, or anything else, and let's try not to point fingers about anything, even if I am indeed hypocritically doing so right now.