Making a Guide on Eidolons for all players

[MagicSpice]

So yeah, decided to do one myself, especially since I've done guides before (for games like Elsword and Sengoku Providence).

This is mainly focused on players of various levels of power, so it more or less points out noteworthy Eidolons that are worth using, even R and SR ones until you can get better ones... So it's not just focused on the best ones in the game (like the 100% ones), it's more focused on what you might have.


so tell me what you think. when more Eidolons come out, I'll add to this. Might be worth making changes you guys point out too.


https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

[Cobblemaniac]

So yeah, decided to do one myself, especially since I've done guides before (for games like Elsword and Sengoku Providence).

This is mainly focused on players of various levels of power, so it more or less points out noteworthy Eidolons that are worth using, even R and SR ones until you can get better ones... So it's not just focused on the best ones in the game (like the 100% ones), it's more focused on what you might have.


so tell me what you think. when more Eidolons come out, I'll add to this. Might be worth making changes you guys point out too.


https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...Buh1c5Rmk/edit

Access is locked. Check your gdocs public access status? Also I believe the link given is for editing, you might want to share the view link instead.

[MagicSpice]

Access is locked. Check your gdocs public access status? Also I believe the link given is for editing, you might want to share the view link instead.

fixed it

took me a while cause of work though... sorry

[WhatIconceal]

IMO needs a lot of work:

-text formats, headings, right now it's kinda wall of text;
-more general info regarding effects like character attack vs elemental attack (when one is better than another and why), main/sub eidos and summon/passive effect, friends/non-friends eidos, mention that non-friends eidos passive actually works etc.;
-maybe some eidos orb shop info;
-you already started this but make the division more distinct - rarity (R-SR-SSR)/how to get (gem or jewels/prem gacha/events/story quest drops/materials exchange shop) /passive effects (like 30% chara atk/ability DMG, 30% chara/30% burst-streak DMG, 40% chara/20% HP etc.);
my suggestion is smth like this: first goes rarity, then how to get - basically just 2 options (f2p and permium), maybe add detailed for each eido later, then group them by passive effects; after that list element, atk/hp stats, summon effect and do a basic analysis like 'meh passive, good summon, nice stats, useful as sub eido';
-probably the most important - TERMS, just a few examples:

...St. Nickolas- She gives a nice increase to the attack power of light characters...
...Reiki- She’s pretty much like Jack Frost, but done a different way. She increases water character’s attack power...

it's all over the place; the "attack power" you use is confusing as hell, you have to use either "character attack" or "elemental attack";

Jack Frost part:

...This means one of the dots gained during an enemy taking a turn can disappear...

maybe it's just me but when i read that i thought about DoT (damage over time) and not about overdrive charge orbs;

-small addition to formatting/grouping eidos part and why i thinks that's important - to avoid stuff like this:

...Echidna- She’s the same case as Ouroboros...
...Fafnir- Same case as Echidna...
...Huanglong- She does the same increase as Hecatonchires...
...Jabberwock- She does the same increase as Ifrit...
...Fenrir- She does the same exact effects as Ifrit...
...Reiki- She’s pretty much like Jack Frost...
...Amphisbaena- She’s like Jack frost...
...Icarus- She’s like Reiki...

literally just all the way thru the SSR part. Maybe that's the way guides need to be idk, but personally i'm not a fan of this stuff. I prefer things to be short and on-point.

[sanahtlig]

This is way too long given the limited scope of the topic and its relative simplicity. Eidolons come in a few basic categories, and after that the only difference between them is the summon effect and the element. The summon effect is generally a very minor consideration, except for Behemoth.

Also, HIGHLY recommended to Reroll for the Gacha SSR Eidolons (particularly the 100% ones)

This is pretty misleading. SSR eidolons other than the +100% eidolons are nearly worthless in the long-run without multiple LBs. Since what to start with is probably the single most important decision most players will make, there's no room for confusion. If in doubt, just link my rerolling guide. I can update with an explanation of why the +100% eidolons are optimal starting picks if needed.

[QXZ]

i would suggest

1. adding a section to rate or rank the eidos

2. give examples of a good eido lineup.

[AznSamsung]

Nice start .. I would recommend to put in stat point (hp/atk) ... also recommend which free event eldon should have aim for for each element and also which 6 free eldon should they have in term of stat to help out those f2p

[Unregistered]

Nice start .. I would recommend to put in stat point (hp/atk) ... also recommend which free event eldon should have aim for for each element and also which 6 free eldon should they have in term of stat to help out those f2p

It's noteworthy to list the stat values but not important to list which free eidolons a free player should aim for since the guide only lists released eidolons. Are you going to tell a free player that just started to aim for Jormungandr/Yatagarasu for their debuffs or Mii/Sphinx for their high base attack? They won't even be able to get them (until certain features are added or another reprint).

[sanahtlig]

One could go through every upcoming event in the next 6 months and judge which weapons and eidolons are most important. Though typically only Advents give you much choice, and the choice is going to be very dependent on one's particular circumstances. Still, that IS something value-added for which a guide could be useful. I generally try to stay away from topics that are only useful for a time-limited window.

[MagicSpice]

It's noteworthy to list the stat values but not important to list which free eidolons a free player should aim for since the guide only lists released eidolons. Are you going to tell a free player that just started to aim for Jormungandr/Yatagarasu for their debuffs or Mii/Sphinx for their high base attack? They won't even be able to get them (until certain features are added or another reprint).

well that's the thing, this is gonna be updated as more and more eidolons come into the mix...

it's part of the reason why i lumped the 100% eidolons together like I did, cause naturally, you'll want one for each element you plan on using, but we only have 2 of them so far...

it can be listed now for future reference, but on that subject, the same can be said for Eidolons we don't have like Vlad or Yule Goat....

plus in the case of rematches, i am listing every eidolon we have right now that's SSR, so that said, they'll be placed somewhere... we had 3 shots at yatagarasu after all, so most players might have a copy or two and players without her can stay aware of her if there's another rematch along the way.

it's more to leave openings to plan ahead if you don't have them, while helping those that do.

key thing about this guide is to cater to all players, not just the ones that have the OP stuff... i even mentioned SR eidolons that come with debuffs too for that reason

after all, a player looking at a guide full of stuff they don't have might not care about said guide until later on. it's best to give options to work with what you have, especially in a game that's LOADED with customization and multiple ways to get stronger...