Thread: Consolidated Light Team Topic

Bear:
What kind of Atk values are players 'expected' to have to handle things like GO and AQ5? Assuming elemental advantage and reasonable skill levels to have given the amount of time we have. I'm sitting at about 30-35k for each member of my teams, so I'm curious at how much more work I should roughly expect. I also expect to mainly have SRs to work with, so that would push the requirements higher. And for GO, I guess I'm aiming to get at least 1 and hopefully 2 orichalcum every 2 weeks. Thanks!

Originally Posted by QXZ

how does no heal work in DMM meta? i get it works in low level content but in long fights, especially multi stage fights, how do ppl sustain the dmg?

Mmm, just to be clear meta != no heal

At least, in my own definition 'meta' means competitive in the most updated environment. Yes in quite a few cases a full frontal dps set up can help you end a fight, steal mvp or squeeze into higher rankings, but in a scenario with mechanics where even those space whales beyond our dimension can get screwed over, there's nothing wrong with bringing a healer/cleanser/tank or two to extend your dps cycle. Your dream team can only be as meta as your grid allows after all. So please, if you ever find yourself chewing on more than you can swallow, please do yourself a favor and bring more recovery and/or mitigation.

Anyway back on your question, what do we do in multi-stage contents? It's quite simple actually. Emote for a free potion L in Rag raids. GO otoh simply drops exactly 2 small and 2 large potions across the Wave 1 (S), 2 (L), 3 (S) and 4 (L). If you're still struggling though, please bring a healer or tank. In AQ5, potion drops are random so if you find yourself struggling please (again) bring a healer or tank. As for Tower, this hell hole is not for discussion. First 10 floors are ezpz. But 11F and beyond, please double check your team and your grid and carefully judge whether you are up for it. Do not try to be the (dead) hero.

Originally Posted by blubbergott

Is Shingen's defender a viable option at all? I assume you lose too much sustained damage and having to save up Michael's Burst gauge up for after PF probably makes you rather inflexible. Is this different for other elements? Wind would f.e. be something i could see it work somewhat with Titania's short CD on the burst gauge up.

I don't like the hp bow myself because just as you already answered yourself, I lose out too much on sustained damage on everything that isn't PF burst. However, I do acknowledge its merit in BT MVP stealing. Basically the idea is you sacrifice a significant % of your basic damage for a one time big number MVP steal. It's totally up to you whether you want to try it.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Bear:
What kind of Atk values are players 'expected' to have to handle things like GO and AQ5? Assuming elemental advantage and reasonable skill levels to have given the amount of time we have. I'm sitting at about 30-35k for each member of my teams, so I'm curious at how much more work I should roughly expect. I also expect to mainly have SRs to work with, so that would push the requirements higher. And for GO, I guess I'm aiming to get at least 1 and hopefully 2 orichalcum every 2 weeks. Thanks!

Hmm. 30~35k SR team is a cutting it a bit too close imo. The SR runs videos I did all have 43~45k attack and I find the pace for those just a little above comfort zone, so I would recommend 40~43k average attack on top of having at least 9~10k in battle hp for your hime to be able to clear GO missions and AQ5 at a reasonable speed. These are chores that you will be grinding almost every single day so you don't want to struggle with them every time, it just kills motivation.

i.e. casually and poorly assembled set up I did:


youtu.be/Lx6AEVyBpxE
Plenty of mistakes here and there. Failed the all member alive mission too. But overall not too terrible as long as you know what you're doing.

wow, i actually missed quite a lot since i was last here... but the stuff said about tower kinda does bring up the point of using what you have. looks like i'll have to go back and max break my R girls cause majority is lv30 or lv40 cap cause i just got the scenes and nothing more....


but since I am planning on maining a light team, now i'm wondering what i do have to look forward to considering I have the following according to Nutaku versions' current content:


Souls- all except masa, herc, and shingen (nearly has enough points for herc)

Eidolons- Hecatonchires (no break), pheonix, sphinx, st. nickolas (the others are all 1 star)

Weapons- Lv50 ray gun solnight (Lv9 assault++), Lv50 winged staff raviel (Lv8 defender++), Moonlight Bow (Lv10 assault, Lv10 defender++), Lv125 Abu Ru Haul (Lv20 assault+, Lv20 defender), Lv125 Saint Nickolai (Lv20 defender+, Lv20 assault), Lv75 Light Staff of Guilty Pride (Lv10 Pride++)

Kamihime- Urania (R), Orpheus (R), Dike (R), Inanna (R), Beach Nergal (R), Aurora (R), Light Perun (R), Artemis (SR), Belobog (SR), Uranus (SR), Beach Brynhildr (SR), Baldr (SR), Diana (SR), Uzume (SR), Anteros (SR), Sol, Raphael, Light Tsukiyomi


this is more for anyone that hasn't responded to this before, but if there's anything else needed mentioning by those that have responded, then that's fine too.

also, I know I need more assault weapons, i'm working on grinding the SR light assault weapon.... if it ever wants to drop....

"i.e. casually and poorly assembled set up I did:" - has 40k ATK on SR hime o.O"

can you show us ur wpn grid?

Originally Posted by QXZ

"i.e. casually and poorly assembled set up I did:" - has 40k ATK on SR hime o.O"

can you show us ur wpn grid?

Heracles Axe - Lv86 & SL4
Trivia Bow - SL20
Apoc Lance x 2 - FLB & SL30
Union Axe #1 & #2 - FLB & SL30
Union Axe #3 - FLB & SL20
Union Hammer - FLB & SL30
Berith Gun - 0LB & SL20
Himeless Bow - 0LB & SL17

thats a pretty stacked setup for a Light player lol.

but ya... i will probably be putting together a Dark team as my 2nd starting with the next miracle ticket.

I just played for a very long time that's all.

My dark grid (and everything else not Light) is mainly event weapons with 1 or 2 0~1LB gacha hime weapons and hardly any + on them. Almost all my + and $ resources went to my Light grid.

Originally Posted by MagicSpice

i'm wondering what i do have to look forward to

Check my earliest post in this thread (That particular long winded one) in case you haven't already done so. The soonest Light event you can look forward to is Barong raid. That event gives you a very nice Atk L gun. As for Barong herself, while her stats are indeed terrible, she's still better than Houou. And since it's a raid event, you can prolly farm for an extra set of guns. Just be mindful that the raid event itself is among one of the more annoying ones so farming tickets will be quite painful. The next thing you can look forward to is the Walkure Romanze Collabo spear. It's another Atk M / Hp S just like Sphinx Hammer.

Originally Posted by Bear

Heracles Axe - Lv86 & SL4
Trivia Bow - SL20
Apoc Lance x 2 - FLB & SL30
Union Axe #1 & #2 - FLB & SL30
Union Axe #3 - FLB & SL20
Union Hammer - FLB & SL30
Berith Gun - 0LB & SL20
Himeless Bow - 0LB & SL17

so its okay to equip multiple pride weapons?
does their effect stack too?

Originally Posted by BlazeRai

so its okay to equip multiple pride weapons?
does their effect stack too?

It's just a guess, but if Attacker and HP weapons do stack, I don't see why Greed weapons don't.

> Multiple Pride

Not exactly. Two reasons - A) You have to examine whether your team can make the best use of Pride by being able to stay at half health or less for extended duration without dying. It works for my dark team because I have sufficient amount of hp and a tank to mitigate damage. It doesn't quite work for my earlier light team though because their health is almost always full. For yours it may or may not be the same case. B) I'm stacking those Axes because they are FLB. At SL30, Pride M & L gives 15% assault, which is higher than SL20 Atk M's 13% assault. And FLB unlocks a second weapon skill for them, for these axes' case, they get Hp M.