Thread: Updated Kamihime Project Rerolling Guide for New and Intermediate Players

I can't help but feel that rerolling is somewhat being overrated.

For example... what the guide fails to mention is that because of the rarity of some Eidolons your chances of ever getting the same one are extremely rare. Heck, the time which some people need for the rerolling process proves as much. Yet this also implies that you won't be level breaking your Eidolon any time soon.

And quite frankly I'll take a maxed out Eidolon over a capped level 40 anytime. Also because most Eidolons can provide several status effects which, when enhanced, only get better. This allows you to truly level up and expand your team.

Another reason why I feel this way is because if there's one thing I learned about the game it's that raw attack power will only get you so far. So all that time spent on trying to get the "best" team is - in my opinion obviously - much better spent on actually playing and learning more about the game. And leveling up your Hime's and Eidolons of course!

Finally the guide claims that if you have a rare Eidolon you'll get many friends in no time because of its rarity. I seriously doubt that and consider the statement overrated. Sure; people who know the game inside out and who actually recognize those Eidolons maybe tempted to pick those over others. But every other casual player will start by looking at the Eidolon's level. The higher the better right? So I don't think too many people would pick a level 40 rare Eidolon over a maxed out level 100. Heck; even level 50 would probably beat it.

And wasn't all this aimed at new players? Why assume that new players actually know all the rare Eidolons?

Fact is that you'll get friends no matter what. It's the way the game works. Another fact is that if you're not very active with playing then you won't earn much extra cash anyway, no matter how rare your Eidolons are. Simply because your name wouldn't be listed.

Now... don't get me wrong here. I'm not saying that there's no value to rerolling at all, absolutely not.

But I do think some people are seriously overhyping the whole thing. Actually learning the game play, building up a good strategy for your element team and recognizing and addressing the teams weaknesses can get you much better results than just getting hold of a bunch of rare and limited Eidolons and blindly relying on their capabilities.

Originally Posted by ZenMaster

I can't help but feel that rerolling is somewhat being overrated.

For example... what the guide fails to mention is that because of the rarity of some Eidolons your chances of ever getting the same one are extremely rare. Heck, the time which some people need for the rerolling process proves as much. Yet this also implies that you won't be level breaking your Eidolon any time soon.

And quite frankly I'll take a maxed out Eidolon over a capped level 40 anytime. Also because most Eidolons can provide several status effects which, when enhanced, only get better. This allows you to truly level up and expand your team.

Another reason why I feel this way is because if there's one thing I learned about the game it's that raw attack power will only get you so far. So all that time spent on trying to get the "best" team is - in my opinion obviously - much better spent on actually playing and learning more about the game. And leveling up your Hime's and Eidolons of course!

Finally the guide claims that if you have a rare Eidolon you'll get many friends in no time because of its rarity. I seriously doubt that and consider the statement overrated. Sure; people who know the game inside out and who actually recognize those Eidolons maybe tempted to pick those over others. But every other casual player will start by looking at the Eidolon's level. The higher the better right? So I don't think too many people would pick a level 40 rare Eidolon over a maxed out level 100. Heck; even level 50 would probably beat it.

And wasn't all this aimed at new players? Why assume that new players actually know all the rare Eidolons?

Fact is that you'll get friends no matter what. It's the way the game works. Another fact is that if you're not very active with playing then you won't earn much extra cash anyway, no matter how rare your Eidolons are. Simply because your name wouldn't be listed.

Now... don't get me wrong here. I'm not saying that there's no value to rerolling at all, absolutely not.

But I do think some people are seriously overhyping the whole thing. Actually learning the game play, building up a good strategy for your element team and recognizing and addressing the teams weaknesses can get you much better results than just getting hold of a bunch of rare and limited Eidolons and blindly relying on their capabilities.

You dont need a bunch, just 1 100% eidolons is enough because rare eidolons attract rare eidolons, with 2 100% eidolons your R team will hit like a motherfucker

Originally Posted by ZenMaster

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And quite frankly I'll take a maxed out Eidolon over a capped level 40 anytime.

You don't understand how the game works.

A 100% Eidolon at 0-stars is by far stronger than a LMB event Eidolon (45% currently, technically we're getting 50% with caveats later). Even LMB Gacha Eidolons (whales only) are 60%. As such, you are just mathematically flat out wrong, and this is even before considering the friend-list benefits and long term team planning benefits.

Originally Posted by ZenMaster

Also because most Eidolons can provide several status effects which, when enhanced, only get better.

Literally only Dragoons as far as I know. So you're wrong here as well.

Originally Posted by ZenMaster

Another reason why I feel this way is because if there's one thing I learned about the game it's that raw attack power will only get you so far. So all that time spent on trying to get the "best" team is - in my opinion obviously - much better spent on actually playing and learning more about the game.

The same way you've learnt it all wrong? Yeah, that'll sure help.

The "best" team will perform extremely well, even if played badly. The "best" team with a P2W Eidolon will just faceroll all content in the near future, though not in the far future.

Though, later on in Kamihime's life cycle we'll get actually complex Hime where this might be an argument since you can't just AAB and gain decent results.

Originally Posted by ZenMaster

Finally the guide claims that if you have a rare Eidolon you'll get many friends in no time because of its rarity. I seriously doubt that and consider the statement overrated. Sure; people who know the game inside out and who actually recognize those Eidolons maybe tempted to pick those over others. But every other casual player will start by looking at the Eidolon's level. The higher the better right? So I don't think too many people would pick a level 40 rare Eidolon over a maxed out level 100. Heck; even level 50 would probably beat it.

Maybe new players might make that mistake, yes. But any new player on your Friend List is worthless, as such, this argument is also flat out wrong. That's just not how the game works.

New players can't get any Friend slots from veteran players since they have nothing to offer them. You can easily get people to your Friend List, yes. But these people will likely only one or two good Eidolons - if even that. This also strongly depends on when you start the game. If there have been strong Eidolon lately, then people at roughly your Rank will have those - but nothing else. Worst case scenario, there have only been garbage Eidolons lately and there are zero useful Eidolons for you anywhere.

Meanwhile, if you reroll into a P2W Eidolon you instantly get a free pass to just about every veteran's Friend List. And bam, you have access good Eidolons in EVERY element, not just the one your P2W Eidolon is. Would you look at that, I guess it helps that you're friends with people who actually know how to play the game.


So, maybe it would be time for you reroll? It's obvious that you haven't understood the advantages of it at all.

Originally Posted by ZenMaster

I can't help but feel that rerolling is somewhat being overrated.


Finally the guide claims that if you have a rare Eidolon you'll get many friends in no time because of its rarity. I seriously doubt that and consider the statement overrated. Sure; people who know the game inside out and who actually recognize those Eidolons maybe tempted to pick those over others. But every other casual player will start by looking at the Eidolon's level. The higher the better right? So I don't think too many people would pick a level 40 rare Eidolon over a maxed out level 100. Heck; even level 50 would probably beat it.

Casual player will see lvl 85/100 eydolon with 30-40-45% element and lvl 40 with+100%... i highly doubt that he will not choose 100% one who will double damage (actualy not double, but we are looking from casual side, who don't know math). The only problem i see - that reroll into 100% may take years because chance is too low. So i don't recomend to reroll too much, but pick some good hime and start to play. If you will get 100% reroll - you're very lucky, just play with it, himes doesn't matter. If don't - ok, chance is almost zero anyway.

I’d just like to chime in on the benefits of a 100% eidolon for your friends list. When I rerolled for the 100% wind eidolon I had a friend request from a rank 126 player a day later. Also a lot of us who rerolled for hraesvelger friended each other while leveling. It’s very easy for me to punch outside my weight class with a double 100% eidolon setup. Compared to my first account during the Icarus event where I mained fire and the best I could get was 30% elemental it’s night and day as far as the friends list is concerned.

Originally Posted by Mraktar

Casual player will see lvl 85/100 eydolon with 30-40-45% element and lvl 40 with+100%... i highly doubt that he will not choose 100% one who will double damage (actualy not double, but we are looking from casual side, who don't know math). The only problem i see - that reroll into 100% may take years because chance is too low. So i don't recomend to reroll too much, but pick some good hime and start to play. If you will get 100% reroll - you're very lucky, just play with it, himes doesn't matter. If don't - ok, chance is almost zero anyway.

Is it that hard ?, i just start the game 4 days ago with 100% eidolon and my friend list now have 10+ friend have 100% eidolon and non of them pass rank 50, maybe you are not reroll hard enough ?, it take me 2 days tho

Originally Posted by PervertFrVN

Is it that hard ?, i just start the game 4 days ago with 100% eidolon and my friend list now have 10+ friend have 100% eidolon and non of them pass rank 50, maybe you are not reroll hard enough ?, it take me 2 days tho

10+ friend with 100% eydolons is consequence of your 100% eydolon, because they're purposefuly looking only for friends with good eydolons (mostly 100% ones) and declining others offers. And theese 10 100% eydolons may be not only rerolled, but whaled too. Rank doesn't matter - only luck and amount of time/cash spent. Actualy years - it's definitely hyperbole, but i guess that chance of 100% eydolon in jewel gacha is not greater then 0.1% so 2 days is much,much higher then average.
And as we are already talking about searching friend, there is a little adverticement: Hrae player is searching for friends with Hrae.
ID 4800544
EDIT: Belial/Rudra are ok too

Originally Posted by Mraktar

10+ friend with 100% eydolons is consequence of your 100% eydolon, because they're purposefuly looking only for friends with good eydolons (mostly 100% ones) and declining others offers. And theese 10 100% eydolons may be not only rerolled, but whaled too. Rank doesn't matter - only luck and amount of time/cash spent. Actualy years - it's definitely hyperbole, but i guess that chance of 100% eydolon in jewel gacha is not greater then 0.1% so 2 days is much,much higher then average.
And as we are already talking about searching friend, there is a little adverticement: Hrae player is searching for friends with Hrae.
ID 4800544

Too bad i’m belial, but since i have SSR cybele so if you are interest my is 4181656

ill trade my Kirin for ur Belial anytime

I actually have two reroll account's with Kirin
However I don't like thunder.

Let's see who will get Rudra first xP