Thread: Is it just me or is Mastema easier....

More of future event eidolon fights will introduce anti-Auto and anti-Abi Auto trigger skills.

Enjoy your Auto fights while you still can.

Not that I auto-battle in events outside of standards in raid/union, but I'm curious. Any particular events I should look up as examples of what you're referring to?

Well, seeing is believing I guess. I find it hard to believe that they'd nerf a game mechanic which they basically introduced themselves. Especially when it comes to SP fights which don't bother other players.

Originally Posted by ZenMaster

Well, seeing is believing I guess. I find it hard to believe that they'd nerf a game mechanic which they basically introduced themselves. Especially when it comes to SP fights which don't bother other players.

Who said they are nerfing it? they are introducing non aab friendly content, thats all, thats not a nerf, up to you if you wanna stick to aab and fail everytime (on that content) or actually manual and clear the content like normal people will do, you can still aab in daily chores like 25 sp dailies and disasters.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Not that I auto-battle in events outside of standards in raid/union, but I'm curious. Any particular events I should look up as examples of what you're referring to?

Example is Tartarus(Thunder Raid) normal AoE puke you with 3 turns blind + self buff dodge chance. Your party can hit zero dmg with the two effects.

Her rage ougi gives your party 1k+ regen and zombie.

Medjed(latest Thunder advent) buffs herself with specific buffs and self cleanses every turn before her nuke. The nuke can one shot pretty much any party without 90% cut. Tho not a problem for those who finish her before she got the chance to nuke.

Monoceros(valentine raid) has AoE dispel and atk down OR charm OR berserk if you use any buffs on your team.

Fluerety(anniversary raid) just has a crap ton of hp for event standard. Her normal nuke give DOTs(Damage Over Time like poison, drown, etc.) of 1.8k decay dmg and 3k poison dmg.

Nandi, while pretty easy also spams self buff + cleanse frequently on fixed turns. Unlike Typhon who just randomly cleanse.

I don't think Iwanagahime is anti auto but I sure as hell don't wanna auto her. Vigor buff(the opposite of pride buff) at the beginning, AoE Doom on 7th turn and nasty pride buff on 10(?) hits rage nuke for BOOM dmg on your team.

Water Ragnarok and Dark Ragnarok daily raids, oh boy. Let's just say there will be raids with corpses everywhere when they get released. AAB Water Rag = death for many players in the raid. And Dark Rag has complicated mechanics that you need to watch out for. When there is even a full detailed data on Dark Rag's moveset in every turn, that is when you know Dark Rag is shit for public like Water Rag.

And example for how Dark Rag is a pain. In her first turn, she will cast overheat buff on your party that lasts for 20 turns and you can't cleanse it since it is a "buff" on your part. So you have to wait until she dispels it for you. It will be VERY wise to NOT buff your team(at least 2turns buff should be reliable enough) in first turn because of the overheated buff. If you stack your buffs on you, she will dispel only the first two of your buffs and the overheat will stay until its turn runs out or you let her dispel. And you want to remove overheat fast so that you have one LESS DOT to worry about(It's Dark Rag so it will have lots of affliction debuffs).

Most of the event ones don't sound like too much of an issue autoing, especially not the raid ones. Mechanics like that aren't going to encourage players to stop joining in and just turning on auto battle while others clean up, if needed.

The only ones people really need to worry about are advents.

Originally Posted by Aidoru

The only ones people really need to worry about are advents.

And catastrophes (future ones), personally i dont share my catastrophes outside union/friends because of that, i hate auto leechers on my raids, they are most of the time useless.

Well when Water Catastrophe comes around, there will be a ton of dead Rags because not everyone will have the optimal teams for it and those who do won't want to carry people who AAB with not so great damage just to leech.

People will eventually have to get off their lazy butts I suppose. Just a prediction based on future content.

Personally I won't be sharing my Rags outside of Union or Friends either as well.

eh, i always liked manual anyway cause auto isn't smart enough to toss your buffs and debuffs on first, then use your damaging skills... nor does it save heals and cleanses... or save certain skills for when they'd do the damage you should be getting....


personally, it's fine if you can just auto through content or do it when you're AFK, but you really are missing out when you don't do manual and you are looking at your screen cause it's actually faster to control things yourself...

it's how i made a lot of progress against barong cause set up right, Nepthys was nuking her for 600k... usually enough to finish the job by then... (and it easily let me one-turn leyak without hitting the attack command since it lops off almost all her HP).

in my case it's preference, but the so-called meta is to be able to just auto everything without abilities used anyway

worst case, just share with union or friends and exclude randoms from your raids, if aab almost kills you and random people do the same or even worsen everything.