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    Quote Originally Posted by BlazeRai View Post
    wait, how does she bring bad luck to battles?
    ahh, say she gets to 95-99 burst rather than 100.. happens a LOT, and since her burst ability only lasts for 3T, sometimes she doesn't double/trple atk even with rates up..
    imagine being super close to raging mode in accessory quest 4 for example.. 1 more hit left for raging, then can use full burst.. shingen got 90, but the next turn runs out her 200% burst power for everyone lol. it happens so frequently. it's especially bad for those with lower grids that can't just use full burst right away and pretty much kill enemy from that.
    has happened to me plenty, my friends and union mates too... always complaining bout her :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitty View Post
    ahh, say she gets to 95-99 burst rather than 100.. happens a LOT, and since her burst ability only lasts for 3T, sometimes she doesn't double/trple atk even with rates up..
    imagine being super close to raging mode in accessory quest 4 for example.. 1 more hit left for raging, then can use full burst.. shingen got 90, but the next turn runs out her 200% burst power for everyone lol. it happens so frequently. it's especially bad for those with lower grids that can't just use full burst right away and pretty much kill enemy from that.
    has happened to me plenty, my friends and union mates too... always complaining bout her :P
    oh okay so thats what you meant. that is quite annoying lol
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    to be fair, would not use shingen if you don't have some form of external burst generation (in my case i have osiris and run usually double jacko, so thats a guranteed 100% unless someone gets killed)

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    At the risk of derailing the thread further... Isn't that why people prefer Arthur/ Hercules with soul weapon PF ex?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac View Post
    At the risk of derailing the thread further... Isn't that why people prefer Arthur/ Hercules with soul weapon PF ex?
    that kinda prevents you from bringing important ex skills like sniper shot though right? Unless said person can cover those important ex skills with other himes instead
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    still need snipershot in my case, so unless i can somehow get more atk down besides hades, i won't be able to use Arthur with Herc axe.

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    Shingen works well with daji and titania though, as well as other burst increasing girls.
    she fits perfectly on my wind team.. pretty much guaranteed double/triple atk with titanias combo buff on turn 1 (say it's burst time) so can use full burst with all buffs/debuffs on the second turn, OR use titanias ability dmg buff which would automatically get her from 70 to full... but would rather save that for Azazel since I can do over 600k dmg with that ability if i'm using hraesvelgr..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac View Post
    At the risk of derailing the thread further... Isn't that why people prefer Arthur/ Hercules with soul weapon PF ex?
    Shingen gets a +35 burst for her weapon skill for lance, solving need of needing another source of burst up. Using Shingen gives you a free ex slot. Hercules gets a +30 burst, has to use PF for her ex but has -25% def down debuff from her weapon. Arthur is just there for burst hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidoru View Post
    Shingen gets a +35 burst for her weapon skill for lance, solving need of needing another source of burst up. Using Shingen gives you a free ex slot. Hercules gets a +30 burst, has to use PF for her ex but has -25% def down debuff from her weapon. Arthur is just there for burst hours.
    Yup. Also, to be mentioned is that Shingen gets +30 burst from using burst, so she only needs 70 burst for her second one. This will VASTLY improve your second full burst, if your team can keep up. Pretty much only Wind can.

    So, in short, the way I assume it'll be once we have all Relic weapons:
    1. If you're lacking debuffs, you'll have to run Shingen due to free Ex slot.
    2. If you're playing a rapid-fire Wind burst build, run Shingen.
    3. If you're playing Thunder, you might need to run Charles Blast on Dartagnan for debuffs.
    4. An Arthur is fine too for Burst Hour MvP stealing.
    5. In ALL other cases, run Hercules. She will be OP as fuck.

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