Thread: How does all your weapon grids add up so far?

Been playing since kamihime started on nutaku but been mostly a causal f2p player:

Thunder: 1172 HP/ 20555 ATK/ 81% assault/ 64% defender/ 2 pride
Fire: 1197 HP/ 17783 ATK/ 103% assault/ 45% defender/ 1 pride
Wind: 1228 HP/ 19207 ATK/ 81% assault/ 48% defender/ 1 pride
Water: 1137 HP/ 19702 ATK/ 123% assault/ 29% defender/ 1 pride
Light: 1315 HP/ 20430 ATK/ 133% assault/ 23% defender/ 2 pride
Dark: 1727 HP/ 21087 ATK/ 110% assault/ 61% defender/ 1 pride

It's been so painful trying to upgrade my dark grid, it feels like I have been hitting a wall with my dark weapon grid for a while now. The only way I can see that grid improving is if I whale for dual SSR weapons.

Originally Posted by darkace51

Been playing since kamihime started on nutaku but been mostly a causal f2p player:

Thunder: 1172 HP/ 20555 ATK/ 81% assault/ 64% defender/ 2 pride
Fire: 1197 HP/ 17783 ATK/ 103% assault/ 45% defender/ 1 pride
Wind: 1228 HP/ 19207 ATK/ 81% assault/ 48% defender/ 1 pride
Water: 1137 HP/ 19702 ATK/ 123% assault/ 29% defender/ 1 pride
Light: 1315 HP/ 20430 ATK/ 133% assault/ 23% defender/ 2 pride
Dark: 1727 HP/ 21087 ATK/ 110% assault/ 61% defender/ 1 pride

It's been so painful trying to upgrade my dark grid, it feels like I have been hitting a wall with my dark weapon grid for a while now. The only way I can see that grid improving is if I whale for dual SSR weapons.

Bad news, your dark grid probably won't see the light of day (ironically) until either Envy reprint (if pride is what you want) or the Apocalypse reprint, the latter of which you get your first 4LB for a dark event weapon. I'm assuming the second event probably appeals to you better, but that ain't coming for 4.5 more months.

Originally Posted by darkace51

Been playing since kamihime started on nutaku but been mostly a causal f2p player:

Thunder: 1172 HP/ 20555 ATK/ 81% assault/ 64% defender/ 2 pride
Fire: 1197 HP/ 17783 ATK/ 103% assault/ 45% defender/ 1 pride
Wind: 1228 HP/ 19207 ATK/ 81% assault/ 48% defender/ 1 pride
Water: 1137 HP/ 19702 ATK/ 123% assault/ 29% defender/ 1 pride
Light: 1315 HP/ 20430 ATK/ 133% assault/ 23% defender/ 2 pride
Dark: 1727 HP/ 21087 ATK/ 110% assault/ 61% defender/ 1 pride

It's been so painful trying to upgrade my dark grid, it feels like I have been hitting a wall with my dark weapon grid for a while now. The only way I can see that grid improving is if I whale for dual SSR weapons.

I understand your pain. (all lv 20)

Originally Posted by darkace51

Been playing since kamihime started on nutaku but been mostly a causal f2p player:
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Your grids are stronger than many who don't call themselves casuals...

If you enjoy that much HP, then by all means. But it should be noted that each SSR Defender that you replace with a SR Assault, you'll gain roughly a ~10% damage boost. Which is no small deal. With dual-skill weapons providing more and more HP while still giving damage output, pure Defenders are often scrapped these days.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Your grids are stronger than many who don't call themselves casuals...

If you enjoy that much HP, then by all means. But it should be noted that each SSR Defender that you replace with a SR Assault, you'll gain roughly a ~10% damage boost. Which is no small deal. With dual-skill weapons providing more and more HP while still giving damage output, pure Defenders are often scrapped these days.

Oh thanks. Yeah was planning on switching out the 3 SSR defenders with SSR dual skill weapons. Problem being the lack of dark events that give dual skill or assault weapons. Since I'm mostly f2p I really don't want to whale to get those gatcha dual skill weapons. I was lucky (kinda) I got 2 copies of the dark SSR assault bow, 2 copies of the dual skill Osiris weapon, and 3 copies of Satan's weapon from the jewel gatcha.

Originally Posted by darkace51

Oh thanks. Yeah was planning on switching out the 3 SSR defenders with SSR dual skill weapons. Problem being the lack of dark events that give dual skill or assault weapons. Since I'm mostly f2p I really don't want to whale to get those gatcha dual skill weapons.--

That's why I said "SR"
Farm dem Disasters.

Originally Posted by darkace51

Been playing since kamihime started on nutaku but been mostly a causal f2p player:

Thunder: 1172 HP/ 20555 ATK/ 81% assault/ 64% defender/ 2 pride
Fire: 1197 HP/ 17783 ATK/ 103% assault/ 45% defender/ 1 pride
Wind: 1228 HP/ 19207 ATK/ 81% assault/ 48% defender/ 1 pride
Water: 1137 HP/ 19702 ATK/ 123% assault/ 29% defender/ 1 pride
Light: 1315 HP/ 20430 ATK/ 133% assault/ 23% defender/ 2 pride
Dark: 1727 HP/ 21087 ATK/ 110% assault/ 61% defender/ 1 pride

It's been so painful trying to upgrade my dark grid, it feels like I have been hitting a wall with my dark weapon grid for a while now. The only way I can see that grid improving is if I whale for dual SSR weapons.

I don't really think you need two Defender weapons, with Amphis and one Defender is more than enough.

You should really consider upgrading your grid with, at least, one SR attacker weapon.

Originally Posted by Slashley

That's why I said "SR"
Farm dem Disasters.

Originally Posted by Laventale

I don't really think you need two Defender weapons, with Amphis and one Defender is more than enough.

You should really consider upgrading your grid with, at least, one SR attacker weapon.

Well I also run a 55% Echidna and usually an Amphis with that setup. I once tried experimenting with a 13% gatcha SR assault but found the ~8% more damage from replacing the SSR defender weapon with a SR assault weapon really didn't trump the over 15k HP from having the 2 SSR defender weapons. I just find the setup with a SR less forgiving of failure than my current setup, since my kamihimes could eat the raging AC4 overdrive 2 hits in a row (3 hits in a row if I applied all the buffs and debuffs) and still have enough HP to survive being double hit afterwards. The same thing applies to the higher level ultimate battles where usually bad rage management gets me killed with the SR but the defender SSR give me enough room to recover, maybe if I were a better player or didn't auto battle the SR might be better but from my experience I usually survive failure or unexpected events better with my current build.

Good to know that I can expect to improve my grid within next 5 months though.

Originally Posted by darkace51

Well I also run a 55% Echidna and usually an Amphis with that setup. I once tried experimenting with a 13% gatcha SR assault but found the ~8% more damage from replacing the SSR defender weapon with a SR assault weapon really didn't trump the over 15k HP from having the 2 SSR defender weapons. I just find the setup with a SR less forgiving of failure than my current setup, since my kamihimes could eat the raging AC4 overdrive 2 hits in a row (3 hits in a row if I applied all the buffs and debuffs) and still have enough HP to survive being double hit afterwards. The same thing applies to the higher level ultimate battles where usually bad rage management gets me killed with the SR but the defender SSR give me enough room to recover, maybe if I were a better player or didn't auto battle the SR might be better but from my experience I usually survive failure or unexpected events better with my current build.

Good to know that I can expect to improve my grid within next 5 months though.

i did always say that all that attack power isn't good if you can't withstand the damage you take... (my fire team is still likely to die given my only non-soul heals are bryhildr, RNG drain from dakki, and sakuya's pathetic 500 HP heals.... and they're packing about 6k base HP while my other teams all have 8k-11k)

fire might be able to get away with that (they get the most out of an assault heavy setup), but the other elements either cut it too close or can't pull it off... especially for those lacking the "key SSR"

gonna need a decent mix of atk and HP until you can start getting dual weapons that give both (or just good dual stuff period like the light staff from the lilim event). given the nature of this game and how random it is throwing stuff at you, the best setup is to "do what works best for you" since you easily might not have what others do