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    So I'm kinda a noob at this and I've got to ask, whats the best way to farm certain mats?. Like, I can only do Expert difficulty and am now basically rich in the shells but I want to farm scales so I can purchase the Soul Points. Should I just continue with Expert or is it better to go back to advanced?


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    On Advents, always grind the most high difficulty you can.

    Edit: I understand that on the beginning, you really need all the Souls you can, but on the long way, is better to farm the weapons and leave the Soul Points for last.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ARCHON View Post
    So I'm kinda a noob at this and I've got to ask, whats the best way to farm certain mats?. Like, I can only do Expert difficulty and am now basically rich in the shells but I want to farm scales so I can purchase the Soul Points. Should I just continue with Expert or is it better to go back to advanced?
    Do what you can. Go as high difficulty as possible, but where you can clear it. This is the general rule for advent events.

    For your future reference, below contains advice for general content (non event) and 2 other events.

    First, raid events, possibly the easiest one for you... if you have enough seeds on hand (recommended 200+). Jump into any public raid, get a couple of hits in and grab the rewards. Even when you hit once, you'll still get the full rewards (outside of MVP and sub-MVP). The only thing to watch out for is... don't be a dick and enter ragna raids with 19/20 ppl and still more than half HP, or something similar.

    Union events are... well I hope you find a good union, that is all that makes the difference in your getting all the rewards in the event (plus a good ranking, therefore more rewards). Well, that and your individual PP, but that improves as your setup improves. The only thing you need to optimise is really measuring the AP to grail ratio. Currently it's more worth to solo Standard Lilims, and more worth to assist Expert Lilims. Always join a Lilim raid hosted by your union member.

    Annnnnnd general. Rule of thumb for farming elemental materials is go ultimate. The lowest drop rate of gold chests (tier 3+ materials) in there is 2, compared to a whopping 0 in expert. Due to the possibility of getting cucked by RNG, my recommendation is run the level that guarantees you get stuff at least.

    Accessories are straightforward. Farm the highest tier you can manage.

    Raid disasters/ catastrophes are an interesting case. My recommendation for levels below ragnarok at the moment is to solo standard before farming expert, considering the platinum chests they drop don't differ by a lot. Then, touch ragnarok when you're able to do at least a decent amount of damage before dying (being able to stay alive while the boss is below 75% HP is a good starting point), and at this point solo is probably out of question until you get a better setup. As for joining these raids, ragna obviously gives you the best stuff, but stick to the rules of not being a dick. ESPECIALLY for water ragna. If you wanna know why, check out the elemental catastrophia info dump thread... or you can ask for an explanation here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac View Post
    Do what you can. Go as high difficulty as possible, but where you can clear it. This is the general rule for advent events.

    For your future reference, below contains advice for general content (non event) and 2 other events.

    First, raid events, possibly the easiest one for you... if you have enough seeds on hand (recommended 200+). Jump into any public raid, get a couple of hits in and grab the rewards. Even when you hit once, you'll still get the full rewards (outside of MVP and sub-MVP). The only thing to watch out for is... don't be a dick and enter ragna raids with 19/20 ppl and still more than half HP, or something similar.

    Union events are... well I hope you find a good union, that is all that makes the difference in your getting all the rewards in the event (plus a good ranking, therefore more rewards). Well, that and your individual PP, but that improves as your setup improves. The only thing you need to optimise is really measuring the AP to grail ratio. Currently it's more worth to solo Standard Lilims, and more worth to assist Expert Lilims. Always join a Lilim raid hosted by your union member.

    Annnnnnd general. Rule of thumb for farming elemental materials is go ultimate. The lowest drop rate of gold chests (tier 3+ materials) in there is 2, compared to a whopping 0 in expert. Due to the possibility of getting cucked by RNG, my recommendation is run the level that guarantees you get stuff at least.

    Accessories are straightforward. Farm the highest tier you can manage.

    Raid disasters/ catastrophes are an interesting case. My recommendation for levels below ragnarok at the moment is to solo standard before farming expert, considering the platinum chests they drop don't differ by a lot. Then, touch ragnarok when you're able to do at least a decent amount of damage before dying (being able to stay alive while the boss is below 75% HP is a good starting point), and at this point solo is probably out of question until you get a better setup. As for joining these raids, ragna obviously gives you the best stuff, but stick to the rules of not being a dick. ESPECIALLY for water ragna. If you wanna know why, check out the elemental catastrophia info dump thread... or you can ask for an explanation here.
    Thanks for the tips.

  5. #175
    Quote Originally Posted by ARCHON View Post
    So I'm kinda a noob at this and I've got to ask, whats the best way to farm certain mats?. Like, I can only do Expert difficulty and am now basically rich in the shells but I want to farm scales so I can purchase the Soul Points. Should I just continue with Expert or is it better to go back to advanced?
    I can agree with Cobblemaniac, but i want to add something. Higher difficulties have much better loot/stamina ratio so there is no reason to farm lower difficulties (just do quests /jewels for first kills). As you can farm only experts, not ulties - you can't get everything, so you must set your priorities.
    1) eydolon is garbage, Tiamat is much better. It's only a pile of orbs for future shop, not more.
    2) get assault sr sword - it's very cheap and effective.
    3) get 20 HE - if you will spend this HE on even experts, you will have much more mats
    4) forget about jewels - you may spend leftovers there, but 3k jevels are expencive
    5) you must try to get MLB hammer, but it's very hard. Gun is cheap, but not realy good. If you can get at least LB1 hammer - do it.
    6) soul points - spend only leftovers t1-t2 mats there, you will be limited in t3 mats on experts.
    Last edited by Mraktar; 06-27-2018 at 05:42 AM. Reason: grammar
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  6. #176
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    did they increase the drop rate of those rainbow chests?

  7. #177
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    did they increase the drop rate of those rainbow chests?
    I don't think so. I've only gotten 1 this entire event so far.

  8. #178
    Quote Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac View Post
    Currently it's more worth to solo Standard Lilims, and more worth to assist Expert Lilims. Always join a Lilim raid hosted by your union member.
    Cobble, it depends on what context you are speaking. "In General" as you said this advice is, then Starting and clearing your own expert is usually better than Standard Lilim (The last Union Raid was the only exception that I remember where farming standard actually had a possibility of returning more grails). In this users case, as a newer player, he should farm the Lilim that he can clear himself, which will most likely be the Standard one for now. As soon as he's able to clear the Expert one, then he should. From there it's just testing each difficulty as each union event starts to see which one produces more Grails. Typically it will be the Expert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlickFenix View Post
    -- Typically it will be the Expert.
    We're... not sure about that.

    It looks like Lust followed the same drops as the previous Lust. If other Union events will follow in suite, then most of them will be better in Standard and only a few notably better in Expert. But Jap wiki hasn't documented these drops at all, so we have no idea was that the way that shit worked in DMM or if this is some Nutaku original shenanigans.

  10. #180
    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    We're... not sure about that.

    It looks like Lust followed the same drops as the previous Lust. If other Union events will follow in suite, then most of them will be better in Standard and only a few notably better in Expert. But Jap wiki hasn't documented these drops at all, so we have no idea was that the way that shit worked in DMM or if this is some Nutaku original shenanigans.
    I watched the drop rates on each one as well. There was only 1 maybe 2 that were better in Standard. I should have kept my numbers around. Maybe I can dig them up from my union discord. And yes, it does seem to be following the same pattern as our first go at these events.

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