Thread: [Event 49] Raid Battle vs Adrammelech

Originally Posted by nonsensei

Even an assault disaster weapon serves better than that crap. Just don't bother with it. The common sense is that you want some sort of assault(assault/pride) on every weapon on your grid, unless you happen to struggle with HP in which case you might consider a pure defender weapon or maaaaaybe two. That's it.

I understand the logic to this if you have a better alternative, but what about for people still struggling with getting SSR weapons? Would a SR assault weapon still be better? Running into the same problem for water with the recent rush weapon - still missing SSR water weapons so want to use it but lack of assault is making me question using an SR over it.....

Originally Posted by MagicSpice

2 reasons why your damage was so different (if you mean between light team and water team):

-Light doesn't have 100% eidolons yet, so the most you'll likely see right now is a total of 120% light atk (double MLB thunderbird). just that friend rudra probably pushed the boost higher than your main and friend eidolons combined for light.

-water gets a nearly a 50% elem atk boost from elemental advantage (i think it's 45% to be exact). light does not have the advantage but water does. (and just think how OP elemental advantage is with double 100% eidolons that are MLB... that should total +285% elem atk)


but if you mean 2 attempts with the same exact team (aka water), then that's influenced by buffs/debuffs and/or how much HP you lost due to Pride weapons (cause that's up to 20% more assault which can add up). other than that, you might have picked a stronger Rudra as some people do have 100% eidolons with a few break limits (i seen someone with a 115% kirin before)

I meant both attempt were with my water team and were against Andramelech.
Both were with 0LB rudra
Both were when my team had high HP (almost full)
In both attempts all the Def debuff landed
In both of them I used the same team so ofc same buffs
Yet, in 1 attempt my full burst overall did 5.7M damage and the other one had 6M+
And when I tried it against fire raid boss, I was close to 7M

Originally Posted by CaptainNoobCN

Yet, in 1 attempt my full burst overall did 5.7M damage and the other one had 6M+

Ashy crit buff.

Originally Posted by CaptainNoobCN

I meant both attempt were with my water team and were against Andramelech.
Both were with 0LB rudra
Both were when my team had high HP (almost full)
In both attempts all the Def debuff landed
In both of them I used the same team so ofc same buffs
Yet, in 1 attempt my full burst overall did 5.7M damage and the other one had 6M+
And when I tried it against fire raid boss, I was close to 7M

in that case only things i can think of that your current HP values were different between each time, or the slight bit of randomness in damage kicked in (there's a tiny random mod on damage that's more noticeable when you do a lot of damage, like full bursting). If there's Crit buffs, then that matters too as there's a chance crit activates, not a guarantee

the raid boss is one thing, cause bosses have defense values that could possibly be different, but if one FB on andram did 5.7 mil and another did 6+, it's likely pride weapon did kick in more for one of those attempts.

your current HP is likely going to be different each time, and the more pride (and eventually vigor) weapons you have, the more noticeable this becomes. it's very rare for you to have say, 5254 HP on the same exact hime when you FB both times, let alone on all 5 of your party. all it needs is to be in a certain threshold so even 1 HP off might trigger more of a boost. only way to avoid that is to have exactly full HP each time you do it (like during burst time)

as for crit, i pretty much said that already. just another chance of fluctuating values (though i see it work a lot for nepthys and cybele)

Originally Posted by MagicSpice

the raid boss is one thing, cause bosses have defense values that could possibly be different, but if one FB on andram did 5.7 mil and another did 6+, it's likely pride weapon did kick in more for one of those attempts.

He already said his hp was almost full in those 2 attempts, its just crit buff, pride doesnt make you jump from 5.7 to 6+ in those conditions.

gasps i'm in a rag with these two famous boys!!!11 what an hONOR

I think I ran into a Rag before with someone from here...


Anyway, this is how my Light Rag Solo went:




and if you seen my recent light grid from other threads, it's the same. It's also posted again in the pinned comment on the actual video page.


also, someone said they bypassed one of the AoE nukes with the drown trigger.... didn't work for me when i tried it.