Thread: HELP US FIX THE GACHA RATE

Originally Posted by Slashley

Obviously, 3m "players" means "accounts." Almost all of which are reroll accounts. Nutaku knows this (I hope). It's just PR.

I don't know if 2000 active players is "dying" though. Sure it doesn't hold against some games like Fortnite, but seems like a good amount of income nonetheless.

Just being sarcastic and I'm not a pleasant guy. Anyway, forgot the number but quick google says percentage of f2p that ends up spending cash are between 0.19% to 2.2%, lets round it up up to eleven, yeah 11% of 2000 is 220 persons, and lets be generously-generous-as-a-generous-god when assuming each of them spend $100 monthly, thats $22k monthly revenue, their other game titstitan of fapmonkey or whatever will probably have revenue akin to winrar.

Aand to avoid derailing from the topic I will say: gacha rate sucks, my advice for them is at least try to provide entertainment instead of being a wannabe underworld gambling den. They nerfed the overall gacha, by now its too obvious to ignore, just search youtube for peoples rolls in nutaku's kamihime, afterwards ask yourself, does that look like 3% to you? like 4 out of 5 vids are having a lot less SSR than what they're suppose to be getting. Like people only able to liquidate 60% of estimated gain, like the rates is actually in reality is 2%!!

Originally Posted by King-Electronics

Just being sarcastic and I'm not a pleasant guy. Anyway, forgot the number but quick google says percentage of f2p that ends up spending cash are between 0.19% to 2.2%, lets round it up up to eleven, yeah 11% of 2000 is 220 persons, and lets be generously-generous-as-a-generous-god when assuming each of them spend $100 monthly, thats $22k monthly revenue, their other game titstitan of fapmonkey or whatever will probably have revenue akin to winrar. --

You forget that none of these people you mention don't have any worth whatsoever. Dolphins are not the reason why F2P exists - whales are.

A single whale can easily pay ten times that much. Every. Single. Month.

That's the only reason why F2P exists, to find a whale and get more money from that guy - or maybe even his whale friends! - than what you could ever make by making an actual game.

Originally Posted by Slashley

You forget that none of these people you mention don't have any worth whatsoever. Dolphins are not the reason why F2P exists - whales are.

A single whale can easily pay ten times that much. Every. Single. Month.

That's the only reason why F2P exists, to find a whale and get more money from that guy - or maybe even his whale friends! - than what you could ever make by making an actual game.

Exactly what I said, worthless revenue of $20k monthly. And talking about whale is like talking religion, where are they, a single person spending $200k per month, who is it, should've been super famous right, such as one with all MLBed 100% eidolon, never seen one; best one I've seen is MLBed on only one of them, even thats using brick. All I see is at most are spoiled kids spending thousands monthly, thats not a whale, I had splurged like that when I was in my worst phase of gambling addiction (not in this game fortunately and not anymore). To make it simple, proof or it doesn't exist.
OR.. I just remembered what a pal told me along time ago, that those magical arab prince whaling (even in hentai games, yes!) are something made up as a cover to some kind of shady financial activity. So maybe thats good, meaning nutaku will still going strong, I don't care if they cook book for some romanian mob or something as long as I got my hentai.

We used to have one... but Maru quit
We have quite a few serious whales, but nothing on that level are left as far as I know.

ya i smelled rat too... i blew away 54k jewels and didnt get the banner himes. the rate ups are just too low.

There's no such thing as whale funding the majority, its a big fat lie to make dolphin felt insignificant so they're less likely to make a fuss if anything went wrong (they're especially scared of a mass refund, it can literally kill the company)
Ever since the era of crowdfunding, every project out there that has tiered investment/donation system has proven again and again that 99% of the money comes from dolphins.

Crowdfunding is something that you give money to once, and then forget about it.

Games work differently. You keep playing, and give money however often you want - and in today's lootbox(/gacha) bullshit, as much as you want with almost no limit.


For example, Nekopara kickstarter gathered 936k dollars. The highest donation was 10k. Yeah, you're right, 99% came from dolphins. But you know what? If it would be a game, this one guy could most likely afford to pay that 10k every day. For months. If not years. And not even notice the loss of money. Also, if Nekopara had put the top-prize at 10m, I bet this guy would've paid it. And oh look, suddenly a whale is responsible for pretty much all the money.

You are correct that mass refunds can kill companies though, getting chargebacked is EXPENSIVE.