Thread: HELP US FIX THE GACHA RATE

We used to have one... but Maru quit
We have quite a few serious whales, but nothing on that level are left as far as I know.

ya i smelled rat too... i blew away 54k jewels and didnt get the banner himes. the rate ups are just too low.

There's no such thing as whale funding the majority, its a big fat lie to make dolphin felt insignificant so they're less likely to make a fuss if anything went wrong (they're especially scared of a mass refund, it can literally kill the company)
Ever since the era of crowdfunding, every project out there that has tiered investment/donation system has proven again and again that 99% of the money comes from dolphins.

Crowdfunding is something that you give money to once, and then forget about it.

Games work differently. You keep playing, and give money however often you want - and in today's lootbox(/gacha) bullshit, as much as you want with almost no limit.


For example, Nekopara kickstarter gathered 936k dollars. The highest donation was 10k. Yeah, you're right, 99% came from dolphins. But you know what? If it would be a game, this one guy could most likely afford to pay that 10k every day. For months. If not years. And not even notice the loss of money. Also, if Nekopara had put the top-prize at 10m, I bet this guy would've paid it. And oh look, suddenly a whale is responsible for pretty much all the money.

You are correct that mass refunds can kill companies though, getting chargebacked is EXPENSIVE.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Crowdfunding is something that you give money to once, and then forget about it.

Games work differently. You keep playing, and give money however often you want - and in today's lootbox(/gacha) bullshit, as much as you want with almost no limit.


For example, Nekopara kickstarter gathered 936k dollars. The highest donation was 10k. Yeah, you're right, 99% came from dolphins. But you know what? If it would be a game, this one guy could most likely afford to pay that 10k every day. For months. If not years. And not even notice the loss of money. Also, if Nekopara had put the top-prize at 10m, I bet this guy would've paid it. And oh look, suddenly a whale is responsible for pretty much all the money.

You are correct that mass refunds can kill companies though, getting chargebacked is EXPENSIVE.

You're fantasizing, if the maximum nekopara had earned was 936k, how likely is a single person that got backer's package of 10k would spend 10million! what I'm BETTING is that one 10k backer guy is an insider backing themself just to "look good" or simply baiting, which is a way too common tactic and a million times more likely.

And by the way, is this maru guy even a real player? For a telltale if he's genuine, did he ever buy gold for his union or friends? all those pseudo-whale out there done that, if not, how sure are you he's an actual player and not an insider "pretending just to look good", a bait (for dolphins of course, they'd have to sell their grandma for an actual whale), a kid emptying his parents bank account, or worse, a sucidal guy burning everything left before offing themself, the kind you find in most casino.

Originally Posted by King-Electronics

You're fantasizing, if the maximum nekopara had earned was 936k, how likely is a single person that got backer's package of 10k would spend 10million! what I'm BETTING is that one 10k backer guy is an insider backing themself just to "look good" or simply baiting, which is a way too common tactic and a million times more likely.

And by the way, is this maru guy even a real player? For a telltale if he's genuine, did he ever buy gold for his union or friends? all those pseudo-whale out there done that, if not, how sure are you he's an actual player and not an insider "pretending just to look good", a bait (for dolphins of course, they'd have to sell their grandma for an actual whale), a kid emptying his parents bank account, or worse, a sucidal guy burning everything left before offing themself, the kind you find in most casino.

you jerk, saying maru is dead is kinda rude mang. Becaus it can actually happen! Jesus I can't get this off my head now.

Originally Posted by King-Electronics

You're fantasizing, if the maximum nekopara had earned was 936k, how likely is a single person that got backer's package of 10k would spend 10million! what I'm BETTING is that one 10k backer guy is an insider backing themself just to "look good" or simply baiting, which is a way too common tactic and a million times more likely.

The very same guy bought a Steam trading card from me at 50 euros.

And my god, did I feel like an idiot after that. He would've paid thousands just for the sake of being the first one to get his hands on a virtual badge on his virtual Steam account. And I sold one of the pieces to him for just fifty euros...

Sigh. I doubt I'll ever again be the first person to get a Foil card of anything ever again, but if I do, lesson learned: start high. For people who have more money than common sense, the price is just a number.

Originally Posted by King-Electronics

You're fantasizing, if the maximum nekopara had earned was 936k, how likely is a single person that got backer's package of 10k would spend 10million! what I'm BETTING is that one 10k backer guy is an insider backing themself just to "look good" or simply baiting, which is a way too common tactic and a million times more likely.

And by the way, is this maru guy even a real player? For a telltale if he's genuine, did he ever buy gold for his union or friends? all those pseudo-whale out there done that, if not, how sure are you he's an actual player and not an insider "pretending just to look good", a bait (for dolphins of course, they'd have to sell their grandma for an actual whale), a kid emptying his parents bank account, or worse, a sucidal guy burning everything left before offing themself, the kind you find in most casino.

Let's ignore whatever numbers there are... ever heard of exaggeration to make the point? Personally I'm not sure of the numbers, and I won't say it's true or not. But... you get the point he's making. Right? Regardless of what you feel?

Or look at this way. The point is made if the number is exaggerated. What if it isn't? Even better, there's actual people willing to go this far, therefore cementing said point.

Originally Posted by Slashley

The very same guy bought a Steam trading card from me at 50 euros.

And my god, did I feel like an idiot after that. He would've paid thousands just for the sake of being the first one to get his hands on a virtual badge on his virtual Steam account. And I sold one of the pieces to him for just fifty euros...

Sigh. I doubt I'll ever again be the first person to get a Foil card of anything ever again, but if I do, lesson learned: start high. For people who have more money than common sense, the price is just a number.

I thought 50 euros was pretty darn high already tbh, but oh wells, concept of money for the rich.

I get the points so I said its no longer an exaggeration but a fantasy. Do you get mine?
See, like talking religion, cementing points with a what if, that's probatio diabolica. And now concept of money for the rich is 50$? that's inconsistent standard.

I don't care anymore, the point is, do you want that 15x rate up or not? Or you rather have even less because hypothetically that could be a good strategy for baiting "whales" to spend even more, therefore keeping the game alive for the rest of us tunas.